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Author Topic: cinema speaker brands Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 12-17-2012 07:25 PM                       That is me for sure, wise guy. Sometimes I just can't resist. I don't disagree that each material has a distinct sound, but the idea is for the box to be as inert as possible. Here again, cheap ass particle board is more dense and should be more inert than plywood of the same size. Plywood is better wood for sure and certainly more rugged, but this is only a real issue on speakers that get handled a lot as in concert sound.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-20-2012 11:48 AM                     Sam, I think the Peavey cabinets were 3/4" thick. They did the testing before I arrived at Megasystems, but they came up with the Peavey/JBL combo out of various manufacturers they tested. I like Peavey products because I am familiar with them and have visited their factories on a few occasions. From the cp-600, Media Matrix, X-Frame, and Digitool (some delay device that we had to come up with because someone had the brilliant idea of creating an optical 35mm penthouse reader ). I stopped by Peavey once and noticed a framed poster behind the receptionist. I said "Oh, the Bibliotheca Library in Egypt". Told her I installed all the equipment in the planetarium, and then demanded to speak with Hartley about his heavy ass speakers he was making. Rick  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 12-20-2012 01:21 PM                       Richard, I did not attack your choice of speakers, I was just pointing out a fact anyone who has ever done remodeling knows well. Particle board weighs more than plywood. I think JBL boxes used an even thicker MDF or particle board, maybe 1 inch. EV made boxes out of smaller thickness MDF and were thus, much easier to damage in transit. Thanks for the reminder about the analog penthouse reader. It was one of maybe 3 total. Quite easy to do because of the mechanical design of the DSTR-20.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-20-2012 07:13 PM                     Sam, I know, I was just defending Peavey, a brand that I trust and recommend same as JBL. As far as the readers, I believe one is still used at Chabot in Oakland, one in Hastings, and one that never got installed in China. Somehow I got the job of integrating them into our projectors. I had to put a SRD penthouse with an analog penthouse and then a DTS reader and figure out all the delays and bypass rollers, then buy a 6 foot ladder for the projectionist to thread. The 35mm design for the 8/70 was a bad idea and I was against it from the begining, but somehow I was given the job of making it work. Rick  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-21-2012 08:05 AM                        To answer Richard's question above: no, I am not familiar with Peavey's cinema products (other than the aformentioned surround speakers, which were fine). I have heard some of their other products (many of which are marketed toward "garage bands" and the like for PA applications) and they are, um, mostly not so great. If the cinema products are well made and sound good, that is good to hear. As far as I know, there are no cinemas in my area that have really unusual equipment. Most every theatre has some variation of Altec, JBL, EV, or QSC, with a few Kliipsch installations and at least a couple of EAW houses. I have heard the Meyer system in a screening room; I was impressed with what I heard, but didn't spend enough time in the venue to make any definitive conclusions about the quality.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 12-21-2012 08:28 AM                        Subs and bass bins are no big deal: a box with a woofer, the majority sub-contracted from Eminence, right here in Kentucky. The real trick is crossovers and horn design. Each is different and distinctive. The L.F. is so easy, we looked into making our own. Just carpentry plus a cardboard box. Shipping it well is the hard part. Louis  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-21-2012 08:49 AM                     garage bands Louis, we programmed the crossover in the processor during installation.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-21-2012 09:38 AM                     I have been mostly un-impressed with the "Cinemacoustics" line of Peavey stuff. I didn't like their processor and have yet to hear one of their speakers that I liked. Peavey is what it is...low-cost stuff that may be a needed step for someone starting out but it has yet to show (to me, at least) that it is high-end. I've had mixed results with the media matrix stuff. At the AFI/Silver it is used quite a bit and has performed REAL well...in other sites, it has been the source of much frustration. I think the key to the AFI system is that it isn't played with. It was set up and controlled by Crestron so it is really working behind the scenes. I think in the 10-years it has been in use (multiple systems too), we have had one BOB failure.  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 12-21-2012 10:25 AM                       Regarding garage bands; One can always tell where the band is on the food chain. They seem to start out on Peavey and progress from there. Pawn shops seem to have a good supply as bands come and go. I'm not being overly critical, just pointing out something I see all the time.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-21-2012 11:59 AM                     quote: Steve Guttag the key to the AFI system is that it isn't played with Exactly. I would password protect everything and give the operator limited access unless the owner/boss wanted the password. I told them that any changes that were made and resulted in a service call resulted in them paying for a service call. When I was at the museum of natural history, they were having problems with their media matrix, it was a new install and another company did it. I told them I wouldn't touch someone elses work and they should call them to fix it. Sam, are you saying you hang out at pawn shops?  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 12-21-2012 01:05 PM                       Actually, these days, I'm kind of a pawnbroker to the industry. I buy used lenses and Dolby gear and then sell back the parts to some of the very same people who gave or sold them to me, so yeah, kind of.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-21-2012 01:18 PM                     To: TruTV, Discovery Channel, TLC: RE: New Show Idear Gentlemen: With the cinema industry's mass conversion to Digital Cinema, a whole new and interesting retail supply chain has opened up. The buying and selling of used and (now) outdated cinema projection and sound equipment. Most such transactions do not follow the usual retail sales model. It is much more like a pawn business. To this end, I would like to present to you the newest reality program: Cinema Pawn Stars!!! Starring the esteemed Mr. Sam Chavez, a true gentleman and character in our industry. The show will follow Mr. Chavez' adventures in the buying, selling and trading of used cinema gear. Some items are extremely rare and never before seen by the public. A true hit in the making. Jump on this deal now before I sell it to one of the majors. Sincerely, Tony Bandiera Jr. Executive Producer of "Projection At A Glance." (If any of the aforementioned networks uses this idea I expect my royalty checks to be sent to me immediately.)  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 12-21-2012 03:50 PM                        In this industry EVERYONE is (and was) a character! Real personalities. part of the charm! Louis  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 12-21-2012 07:15 PM                       Roscoe Purdue comes to mind, but only if you're of a certain age, as in older than Louis and me.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-21-2012 10:43 PM                     Add the late Conrad Button to the list..another great guy and character we lost too soon.  |  IP: Logged

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