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Bill Brandenstein
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Arclight Hollywood has this print going one show per day (NOT in the Dome, of course) through tomorrow, 7/11.

All of which makes for a bit of local intrigue, since the American Cinematheque's Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood had their own 2001 print struck in 2016, with exclusive local showing rights, until Nolan had to come along and mess this up! (wink) They've also had some current showings and, no doubt, will eventually be back around with it again. (I'm assuming that means they have prints of both versions on hand.)

But you knew that. (Original discussion HERE.)

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Mark Ogden
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I've been wondering about something along those lines. If you're a theatre owner who just threw down for their own exclusive 70mm print, and all of a sudden there are, what, 13 new non-exclusive prints circulating, how do you feel? Granted, you'll save a ton on shipping when you want to play the film, but how many times will you need show this before you amortize what you paid for the print, and how much did THIS run cut into that? I mean, this run proved that the title can still draw an audience, but how many more times?

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Bill Brandenstein
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Sadly, with Leo no longer at the Egyptian, we don't have a convenient insider perspective. However, this is a great question. And, based on previous discussions, I suspect happily that the print already paid for itself prior to this year's re-release.

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Aron Toplitsky
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Bill,

I was wonder if you or anyone has seen both the Nolan print and the American Cinematheque print? And if so, which one looks better? I've only seen the Nolan print.

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Bill Brandenstein
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You know, for one who enjoys movies so much and blathers a lot about them, you'd think I get out more.

Regrettably, so far I've seen neither.

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Eric Richard
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Just received a IMAX trailer for this film. Release date is same as the Dark Knight IMAX re release on August 24th. No mention if film or digital, but would assume its digital only.

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Mark Ogden
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^^^^
Well, here's your answer.

As part of the the 50th anniversary of Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey, Warner Bros. is releasing the pic in 350 Imax theaters for one week on Aug. 24. The announcement was made today by Jeff Goldstein, President, Domestic Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures today. The release is being touted as the first time the landmark sci-fi film is being seen on the largest screen possible.

The Imax run follows an “unrestored” 70mm film release of 2001: A Space Odyssey, which was overseen by Dark Knight filmmaker and Kubrick fan Christopher Nolan.

Four select Imax theaters will show the 70MM print of the film: AMC Universal Citywalk IMAX, Universal City, AMC Lincoln Square IMAX, New York City, AMC Metreon IMAX, San Francisco, and Ontario Place Cinesphere IMAX, Toronto. The Imax 70MM ‘unrestored’ print was created via a true photochemical film recreation struck from new printing elements made from the original camera negative with no digital tricks, remastered effects, or revisionist edits. Additional Imax venues will be showing a brand new 4K restoration of the sci-fi film in Imax with Laser and Imax Xenon projection formats. Tickets go on sale this Friday. 2001: A Space Odyssey was first released in April 4, 1968.

Through eight weeks, the recent 50th anniversary release of 2001: A Space Odyssey has blasted to $1.2M. Overall lifetime cume for the movie stands at $58.6M.

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Screw it. I'm going to see it on the 24th at the Grand Lake in Oakland. Much rather see this picture at a classic venue than a place like the Metreon. The Grand Lake has curtains!

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Scott Norwood
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For those showing the 5/70 version, how are the prints holding up at this point?

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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Are the IMAX 70mm showing in horizontal 70mm IMAX, or just conventional 5 perf 70mm on the unmasked wrong aspect ratio IMAX screen?

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Stephan Shelley
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Mark come and say hi. I should be working the evening shift on the 24th.

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Stephan Shelley
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Update on the showing at the Grand Lake Oakland CA, because of the Imax showing at the Metreon we have moved it up a week. It will be starting 8/17 and run for 2 weeks so anybody that has made plans to see it on the weekend of the 24 can still do so. It is going to be followed by a week of Lawrence of Arabia and possible a week of Vertigo all in 70mm.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Mitchell Dvoskin
Are the IMAX 70mm showing in horizontal 70mm IMAX, or just conventional 5 perf 70mm on the unmasked wrong aspect ratio IMAX screen?
They are the real deal, although there are just 4 prints and the picture will be unmasked and in the original aspect ratio, which is a big waste if you ask me.

There were a few IMAX theaters that kept a conventional 35mm/70mm projector around for non-IMAX content.

There are two topics about this "unrestored re-release" now, so I'm not sure were to put my personal experiences.

I've seen it with my own eyes about a week back in Amsterdam. Unfortunately, the show had some slight focus issues, the film was running in and out of focus. Also, the picture was a little bit unstable. Those two aspects somehow negated the idea of a 70mm presentation.

Now, the print itself.

To be brutally honest, I think this whole exercise is a waste of time, money and good film. The result of somebody's ego trip.

If the goal was to show the film in all it's glory and how people have seen it on opening day, then that mission failed.

The picture looks dirty, full of scratches, tons of broken frames that have been haphazardly restored and the colors are most definitely way off. Also, while the sound might come closest to the original mag track, it since lost it's clarity and it's nothing like what it would've sounded 50 years back.

So, if the mission was to experience the movie like it should've been experienced 50 years ago, in the best theaters, this whole thing should've been a real restoration effort. One that fixes the color timing and also adjusts it to modern Xenon lamps, one that fixes the scratches and broken frames and one that restores the soundtrack with dignity.

All in all, I'm pretty disappointed in the current end result, it's not how one of the greatest movies ever is supposed to be experienced.

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