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Jeffry L. Johnson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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posted 06-29-2006 01:42 PM
1961
Carthage In Flames (1) AFI: Foreign release in Super-Technirama 70.
The Savage Innocents (1) AFI: Although some sources list the gauge as Technirama 70, the onscreen credits list Technirama.
1963
Hercules And The Captive Women (1) AFI: Originally shown in 70mm Supertechnirama.
1964
The Carpetbaggers (1,15) AFI: Blown up to 70mm for some roadshow presentations.
The Long Ships (1) AFI: Filmed along the coast of Yugoslavia in Technirama 70.
The Pink Panther (1) AFI: Press material indicates that the film was photographed in 70mm Super Technirama.
Zulu (1,11) AFI: gauge: 35 & 70 Widescreen/ratio: Super-Technirama 70
1965
Genghis Khan (1,11) AFI: Released in West Germany in both 70mm and 35mm versions in Apr 1965 as Dschingis Khan ; running time: 128 min; in Yugoslavia in 1965 as Dzingis-Kan ; British release: Aug 1965.
The Great Wall (1) AFI: Released in Japan in 1962 as Shin no shikotei in 70mm Super Technirama; running time: 160 min.
1967
Thoroughly Modern Millie (16,23) AFI: Blown up to 70mm for some roadshow presentations.
1968
The Jolson Story [re-issue] (1,3) AFI: On 14 Aug 1969, a re-issued version of the film in 70mm format began a roadshow engagement in London. The 70mm re-issue had its American premiere in Aug 1975.
The Young Girls Of Rochefort (1,3) AFI: Opened in Paris in Mar 1967 in 70mm as Les demoiselles de Rochefort ; running time: 120 min.
1969
Those Daring Young Men In Their Jaunty Jalopies (1,3) AFI: gauge: 35 & 70 Widescreen/ratio: Panavision
The Young Rebel (1,3) AFI: Produced in 70mm Totalscope.
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Michael Coate
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, California
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posted 06-30-2006 08:32 PM
quote: Paul Mayer Also remember seeing print ads in American Cinematographer talking about how well the 16mm-to-70mm blowups came out.
An advertisement or an article? The October 1970 issue of American Cinematographer, included a series of articles, a few key passages of which I'll paste in below.
quote: 16mm to 35mm---But Which Way to Go?
All of the footage for "WOODSTOCK" was, of course shot in 16mm.
We knew from the start that we were going to use multiple-images in certain sequences and that we wanted the film to end up in the so-called 'CinemaScope' format---that is, a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. The question was: how to get all those opticals into it and blow it up to 35mm with the least loss of quality?
We eventually made tests at several optical houses, but the first one we went to was Pacific Title. There's a very bright guy who works there named Dick Bond and he came up with an excellent suggestion as to the way to go. We had originally assumed that we would go from the ECO original directly to a 35mm anamorphic negative, which meant that we would have had to use anamorphic lenses in positioning and printing our opticals---putting the squeeze in at that point, while selecting the sizes and positions of the various images. It was just too much.
Bond came up with the suggestion that we go from our ECO original directly to a Techniscope negative, with the opticals put in, flat-to-flat, all in one generation. That would mean that the only thing standing in the way of the release prints would be the 35mm anamorphic matrices that Technicolor would make in the course of their standard Techniscope printing process. They would put the squeeze in at that point and there would be no additional generations involved---no inter-negatives or inter-positives to dilute the quality. I might add that Technicolor has, far and away, some of the best anamorphic lenses in the country.
At any rate, that's the way we elected to go---and it was a good decision.
quote: Getting the Sounds Just Right
We were to end up with 4-channel stereophonic sound---a left, center and right channel, plus a surround channel.
All of the passages above were quotes from "Woodstock" director Michael Wadleigh. After I locate it (hopefully today or tomorrow), I will quote Wadleigh again from an interview he gave to Kodak's magazine 30 years later where every film format reference is given as 70mm and every stereo sound reference is given as six-track.
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Michael Coate
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posted 07-01-2006 08:44 PM
quote: Paul Mayer Read my posts or your own quotes of me again Michael. In two posts above I used the term "ads." So yes, it was an advertisement in American Cinematographer that I am remembering, apparently incorrectly. If I recall correctly, that issue had a still from the IMAX space film, Voyage To the Outer Planets on the cover, which was the reason I read that particular issue.
Relax, Paul, there's nothing out of line in seeking a clarification especially given your "batting average" in the memory department! At any rate, I found the back issue you identified (August 1973) and found a two-page Kodak advertisement on pages 984/5. The verdict: you're half correct... an ad did appear in the issue featuring the cover you mentioned. But the content of the advertisement in question is regarding "The Concert For Bangladesh" (as Bill Gabel suspected) rather than "Woodstock." The text of the ad is:
quote: Blow up 16mm to 70mm? Impossible.
"At least that's what Cecil and I [Don Weed of Film Effects of Hollywood] first thought when [producer/director] Saul Swimmer handed us the Eastman 16mm film footage from 'The Concert For Bangladesh.' We had our reservations, but we told him we'd try.
Then we started experimenting. Saul wanted to go to 70mm to get maximum stereo effect from the 14-track music tapes. Because the 16mm format is in the wrong aspect ratio to be blown up directly to 70mm wide-screen, we realized that we would lose about 50% of our original 16mm frame area... assuming that it could be done at all. No one had ever tried it, but we found the answer. We adapted a wet-gate system to an existing 65/70mm optical printer at Film Effects of Hollywood. Then we scanned each image vertically 'on the fly' as we were printing. Accurately.
"Our first trial experiments without the wet-gate were weak and scratchy. But we saw enough quality in the results to be convinced that the excellent Eastman 16mm negative would hold up going to 70mm. When we went to final process, the results were beautiful. Cecil, Saul and I were astounded. So was everybody else.
The last step was release prints. Those we hand-made by going directly from the 16mm Eastman color negative film to 70mm Eastman color print film 5385.
"We had done something probably no one else had ever done before. With the right materials, nothing's impossible in this business."
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