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Kurt Zupin
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posted 10-29-2011 03:08 AM

Geoff we're a non Science Center location in Tempe, AZ. If you want to make the trek down this way I'll be glad to give ya the old tour of the place [beer]

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 10-29-2011 10:20 PM

quote: Keegan O'Brien
The difference isn't relevant.

The difference IS relevant. The people who drive great distances to see a presentation in IMAX are NOT looking for a digital presentation. They're looking for a 15/70 presentation.

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Jim Henk
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posted 10-29-2011 11:08 PM

Hear here...

Nearest place from my home in San Diego is Ontario up the 15 freeway. Distance? 112 miles. I HOPE the list is correct, and Ontario actually has 70.

Also listed is Irvine. A little closer, but I believe the listing is a mistake. I think that Irvine has gone digital. Anyone know for sure?

- Jim.

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Keegan O'Brien
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posted 10-30-2011 08:22 PM

quote: Mark J. Marshall
The difference IS relevant. The people who drive great distances to see a presentation in IMAX are NOT looking for a digital presentation. They're looking for a 15/70 presentation.

I think we're talking about two different groups here. I'm referring exclusively to Batman fans, not A/V buffs. People who just want to see the first 6 minutes, and don't necessarily care whether it's projected digitally or on film.

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Kurt Zupin
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posted 10-30-2011 09:34 PM

But if this is shot on IMAX film stock like the Prologue for The Dark Knight was why would you want to show it in a lesser format when it's really the first big reveal of the biggest movie of 2012?

I get what your saying Keegan but even your Dark Knight fans, mind you not Batman fans are going to want to see this in REAL IMAX and not Digital, considering almost 70% of this movie is supposed to be shot in IMAX over 35mm/Digital.

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Joseph L. Kleiman
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posted 10-31-2011 07:22 PM

There are a couple of locations on the list that have either closed or removed their IMAX projectors for non-IMAX digital systems, but none near Colorado.

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Keegan O'Brien
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posted 10-31-2011 08:37 PM

quote: Kurt Zupin
I get what your saying Keegan but even your Dark Knight fans, mind you not Batman fans are going to want to see this in REAL IMAX and not Digital, considering almost 70% of this movie is supposed to be shot in IMAX over 35mm/Digital.

Oh, I agree. I most certainly think given the educated option, that nearly all fans would rather see this film on 15/65. I know I certainly would, no doubt. BUT, that's not a viable option for most of the country. There's only 27 film IMAX theaters left in the country, a lot of states don't even have a 15/65 theater and the one's that do are all in metropolitan areas. By the time TDKR is released in July, I'm sure they'll even be less then that.

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Matthew McBride
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posted 11-01-2011 08:44 AM

quote: Kurt Zupin
I get what your saying Keegan but even your Dark Knight fans, mind you not Batman fans are going to want to see this in REAL IMAX and not Digital, considering almost 70% of this movie is supposed to be shot in IMAX over 35mm/Digital.

I think you hit the nail right on the head. It's really a shame Nolan went to all this trouble to film most of the movie in IMAX and only very few places will actually get to see the movie in a 15/70mm presentation.

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Jonathan Althaus
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posted 11-01-2011 09:38 AM

I have heard unconfirmed rumors (rumors only) from a site that has been converted to digital that once DKR comes out in July they will be re-installing the 70mm equipment due to a lifetime contract with IMAX about playing DK. If it gets re-released in 70mm by IMAX, they are required to play it.

All rumors (which i hope are true), but still a chance to see DK and maybe DKR in 70mm

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-01-2011 01:32 PM

I'm not going to hold my breath for that to happen. Once the 15/70 gear is removed from an IMAX theater chances are extremely likely the removal is permanent.

Regarding Batman fans and how they want to see the movie, if they don't care about the difference between 15/70mm projection and fake IMAX (digital) they probably also don't care about seeing the movie in a standard D-cinema theater versus paying several dollars to see it in a fake IMAX theater. A lot of them would probably bee happy to see some version of it streaming on the Internet, be it a camcorder grab or something more legit like a Quicktime file at Apple's web site.

Given the choice between seeing the movie in standard 2K and IMAX branded 2K, I'll save a few bucks and watch it in a regular theater. 15/70mm projection is the only format where I would be willing to spend any premium at all to see this movie.

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Edward Havens
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posted 11-02-2011 11:49 AM

Nolan wants the film to play in 15/70, and even sent reps out to IMAX digital theatres to see if they could install 15/70 equipment for this run. But even if there was enough space in the booths (because, remember, digital was the way to get IMAX out to locations that could not build an IMAX 15/70 house), no one is going to pay to have all that equipment installed for a four to six week run and then uninstalled. And that's being generous. Most IMAX theatres with Potter 7.2, be them 15/70 or digital, were dead after three weeks, and it's not likely this new Batman will equal the popularity of the previous one.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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posted 11-02-2011 12:19 PM

I don't think IMAX would be happy with this. A special 15/70 preview goes against their claim that the IMAX EXPERIENCE is identical in both digital and 15/70. (We all know that they are NOT the same, but that has been the IMAX Corporate line for some time.)

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Aaron Garman
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posted 11-02-2011 01:42 PM

I really hope with all this rumored and obvious interest Nolan has in 15/70 IMAX, that he will eventually figure out how to make an entire movie in the format.

Maybe even a period epic...

AJG

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Jonathan Goeldner
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posted 11-02-2011 05:10 PM

or gosh, say actual 65mm (since the typical response to shooting in IMAX is - "oh that camera is so bulky and noisey" - boohoo) [Frown]

is that true Kurt 70% percent of the movie was shot in IMAX - wow, that's pretty impressive.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-03-2011 09:26 AM

I guess some of us will have to wait decades for 8K and 16K resolution TV sets and video playback formats to emerge in order to see all that native 15/65 photographed detail. And that's a big "IF" considering the real possibility film scanning systems could be all gone by then.

I just still can't get over the stupidity of IMAX executives ordering the whole digital conversion thing now. They knew well ahead of time the next Batman movie would have a great deal of native IMAX footage. The least they could have done was hold off on the digital push until after The Dark Knight Rises had its 15/65 run. But no. The suits had to do the conversion now to maximize profit from 2K 3D shows. This is what happens when you have business people whose vision is focused on the next quarterly report rather than anything long term.

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