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Kurt Zupin
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Thanks for posting this, but its already been posted then reposted by another member.

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Keegan O'Brien
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Are any of the projectionists here seeing the first six minutes on the 8th?

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Kurt Zupin
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The screening for the press on the 8th is in LA and from what I've been told the projectionist is someone from the DKP office.

We'll have our print on the 9th or 10th at the latest.

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Tyler Potts
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So who all is going where? I'm heading up to the Charlotte NC Observer Imax tomorrow night.

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Kurt Zupin
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I'll be seeing it again tomorrow night. Didn't get Operation Early Bird tickets however. I'll be running the event [Smile]

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Geoff Jones
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Here is an interesting tidbit -

I just called the Colorado Blvd Imax theatre to ask if they would be showing Mission Impossible on film. (Wishful thinking, I know) He said no, and tried to convince me that their digital presentation looks better. I told him I wasn't interested in paying more for less resolution.

However, he did say that they still have their 70MM equipment in place. He said that it wouldn't be used again, except for one film next summer. I asked if it was The Dark Knight, and he said he couldn't answer that... but I'm assuming that has to be it.

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Kurt Zupin
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I wouldn't be surprised if that is true. Even just seeing 6+ minutes of IMAX footage, this movie is going to be so big next year its not even going to be close for any other film.

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Pravin Ratnam
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Quite frankly, I would not want a true IMAX format for an entire movie. I prefer the widescreen ratio. IMAX is great for skyscraper scenes. When I saw TDK's skyscraper scene in IMAX, that was cool. But the car chases? Give me a high res large format widescreen version and I prefer that.

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Bobby Henderson
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Fundamentally, Hollywood style feature films are not really appropriate for a true 15/70mm IMAX presentation. There's two big problems: 1. image composition, 2. editorial pace.

IMAX movies need loose composition with lots of head room. The main focus of attention needs to be directly ahead. Camera pans need to happen more slowly. A huge screen will exaggerate the speed of any camera pans and make stuff like shaky cam footage very difficult to watch.

Likewise, IMAX movies require fewer editing cuts. Fades and dissolves are better. Hard cuts are more jarring on a giant sized screen. If you have music video style rapid-fire cuts it will make the imagery very disorienting and hard to follow. It takes a viewer a little bit of time to focus on where the action and interest is taking place on a giant screen. A bunch of 1/3 second cuts on a giant screen will leave the viewer not being able to figure out what is happening.

With IMAX Digital blown up to a giant size the rapid fire cuts and tight image composition will be worsened with the blur of lower resolution.

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Victor Liorentas
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With that said and I do agree,Chris Nolan makes very good use of the strengths Imax 15/70 can bring to a film.
After watching the prologue in 15/70 I am completely sure of this.

Angry with myself for missing The Dark Knight in 15/70.
In other news Paul Thomas Anderson is shooting his new film in 65mm!The whole movie! [beer]

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Bobby Henderson
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I think the IMAX footage in The Dark Knight was mostly well done. While the footage was edited with hard cuts many of the camera shots were held on screen for at least a few seconds.

It's pretty cool that Paul Thomas Anderson is shooting The Master in 65mm. However, it will be interesting to see which theaters will show it in 70mm. The folks who made Baraka shot their new art film Samsara using Panavision's 65mm camera system. Yet no 70mm release prints are being made. Instead it was scanned at 8K and then mastered for 4K digital cinema release.

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Bobby Henderson
The folks who made Baraka shot their new art film Samsara using Panavision's 65mm camera system. Yet no 70mm release prints are being made.
That is a bit of a shame that there are no 70mm prints being made. Tiff Lightbox #1 could certainly show the film in 70mm...the print is all they need. Even more sad is that Tiff will play Samsara in D-Cinema at the film festival in theater 2 at the Lightbox this fall.

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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quote: Bobby Henderson
The folks who made Baraka shot their new art film Samsara using Panavision's 65mm camera system. Yet no 70mm release prints are being made. Instead it was scanned at 8K and then mastered for 4K digital cinema release.
I installed the original film systems for the filmmaker's home screening room, and have seen parts of Samsara on his DLP system there (sadly, it's a four-letter S-word) but it does look fantastic!!

I have the BR of Baraka and it too is incredible.

He removed his 70mm projectors a few years ago. [Frown]

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Jim Henk
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Saw the Dark Knight footage before MI last night in Irvine. Had a good time. Sorry to find out that they've got kids threading that thing now, and no dedicated projectionist, Not a lot of showmanship with the presentation either, but it looked good on the screen. Their manager said that Regal doesn't want to move the big IMAX theatres to digital until they make a better projector. He said he thought about a year. Well, that's what he said, anyway.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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so I finally saw MI:GP and the prologue in 15/70 last night, I thought the prologue was pretty mediocre, but MI4... oh my god, wow, the whole Dubai skyscraper scenes had me gripping the armrests - I hate heights.

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