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Topic: IMAX at the Regal Colorado Center 9 is the worst I have ever seen
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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 08-10-2012 04:38 PM
quote: Dave Macaulay
I don't know if there is any 3D Dome system operating today, but these use a matte screen and shutter glasses.
There is one location in the world that I know of, that is still using 3D on a dome with shutter glasses. Unfortunately, I did not yet have the opportunity to see it. It is in Futuroscope, a theme park in the South West of France. Futuroscope quite probably has the biggest IMAX density per square mile anywhere in the world, alongside the biggest diversity in IMAX technology. Unfortunately, most of it seems to be pretty tied up with some distinct attractions, so there is just a limited or no choice of movies to be made in a particular venue/attraction.
Furthermore, I really would love to see some real "made for the Dome" content on the IMAX Dome (aka Omnimax) for once. Wide angle nature scenes work pretty well on the dome, but anything getting to close to the camera looks awfully skewed. I've never seen a feature length movie on an IMAX dome, but I don't think I will like it.
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Sean Weitzel
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posted 08-10-2012 11:24 PM
The very first IMAX theaters (such as the Pictorium theaters at the Marriott Great America theme parks in Santa Clara, CA and Gurnee, IL) had almost 1000 seats each. (980 from some literature I have seen). These theaters opened within the parks in 1979. "To Fly" 1976 was my first IMAX experience at the Santa Clara Great America. I must have been around 7 or 8 years old (early 1980's)
quote: Marcel Birgelen
Furthermore, I really would love to see some real "made for the Dome" content on the IMAX Dome (aka Omnimax) for once. Wide angle nature scenes work pretty well on the dome, but anything getting to close to the camera looks awfully skewed. I've never seen a feature length movie on an IMAX dome, but I don't think I will like it.
I've never seen a natively shot Omnimax film on a dome screen, I think there were only one or two titles* ever released in true Omnimax but I have seen a few feature length DMR releases projected onto a dome at the Hackworth Imax in San Jose. Needless to say, it doesn't work very well at all. For starters, when framing for full 4X3 aspect ratio of a traditional IMAX screen, you want to keep the horizon and eyeline down in the lower third of the frame. Features framed for traditional aspect ratio are tolerable on a flat screen, but on a dome completely fall apart. The eyelines are midway up from the bottom into a "zone" of the screen where a pincushion effect starts to alter the image. The extreme top of the frame is squeezed into a tiny distorted U shape. All in all it's very unpleasant to look at.
*Three titles in Omnimax: "Garden Isle - 1973" "Omnisphere - 1983" and "The Dream is Alive 1985"
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Dick Vaughan
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posted 08-13-2012 08:17 AM
quote: Stephen Furley
Are there any plans to install digital IMAX in Bradford, and if so will it be in addition to, or replacing, film?
Not at present,they wouldn't fill the height of our screen and they are not inexpensive. We have a Christie 2K alongside our IMAX SR system but this is used for pre show slides, ads,trailers and some standard DCP holdover performances from our other two cinemas.
quote: Stephen Furley
Have you forgotten the anaglyph print of 'We are Born of Stars' which ran at Bradford many years ago when you had the original system there? Was that unique, or were there any other anaglyph IMAX films? I've never heard of any others.
No I haven't forgotten it and we still have it in storage. I was referring to current IMAX 3D screens. WABOS ran as a double bill along with Skyward a standard 2D short from the same EXPO.
quote: Dave Macaulay
Using the shutter glasses along with polarizers gave reduced ghosting with almost no brightness loss, and this was used at the New York Lincoln Square IMAX and possibly other venues. It may have even had a name, "Crystal 3D" or something.
So, yes, there was "Imax" 3D content in 15/70 anaglyph. And yes, currently all Imax 3D screens are silver with their resulting and unavoidable hotspot.
I don't know if there is any 3D Dome system operating today, but these use a matte screen and shutter glasses
The shutter glasses gave a really good image but were a)very expensive to buy , in the order of $250-350 a pair , which meant anti theft sytems had to be put in place to stop customers walking off with them, b) very labour intensive to clean, they couldn't be put through a dishwasher style machine and had to be washed one pair at a time on a specially designed unit and c) very heavy to wear , even after 40 minutes you came away with neck strain.
I think there were around 20-30 E3D installations including the short lived London Trocadero but as far as I know they have now all gone.
The headsets could also be used with Sonics Personal Sound Environment where there were small speakesr inside each headset.
quote: Sean Weitzel
I've never seen a natively shot Omnimax film on a dome screen, I think there were only one or two titles* ever released in true Omnimax but I have seen a few feature length DMR releases projected onto a dome at the Hackworth Imax in San Jose.
There were other films shot specifically with domes in mind , Seasons for example which was made for the Science Museum of Minnesota. http://www.smm.org/omni/seasons
Of late more Giant Screen film producers are making special dome prints of their films with altered contrast and framing.
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Geoff Jones
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posted 09-03-2012 10:57 PM
I saw this again today at 1:10.
Picture-wise, the flickering was still not a problem for me. And I sit too close to notice aperture issues at the edges of the screen. It did seem to dim to me, more so than it did back on 7/22. But I still found it to be very watchable, and was thrilled to see what was possibly my last 70MM IMAX screening.
Sound-wise, there was a huge difference from before. The bass was thunderous, and the audio was excellent.
Thank you again, Joe, for your complaint that lead to getting the audio fixed. I'm Buddy Pine to your Bob Parr. I hope someday I can be as discerning as you.
And bravo to Regal for actually fixing it. If you ever show a 70MM IMAX print of a film I want to see again, I'll drive down from Broomfield, past 2 of your competitors. But not if you continue only with 2k LieMax.
I think I enjoyed TDKR a bit more the 2nd time. Lowered expectations helped. It has lots of faults, but is a big, sensational film.
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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posted 12-04-2013 12:01 PM
Bobby, that is bullshit I know exactly what I am going to get with IMAX in my area. There are no more IMAX 15/70 anywhere in my area except for two classic IMAX locations that show documentaries, but both are 90 minutes away and both do not show Hollywood fare. So watching a Hollywood movie in IMAX 15/70 is not an option for me. For the most part, the consumer has no choice if they are attending multiplex theatre with IMAX, they will be watching IMAX digital. The closest IMAX 15/70 location that is showing Hollywood movies is the Detroit location that is too far away. The chances of someone coming across a 15/70 Hollywood presentation are rather limited.
Also, the facts are that there are no more MPX 15/70 locations in the United States, they have all been converted to digital.
I like 15/70 IMAX far better than digital IMAX, but it is what it is, so move on.
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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posted 12-04-2013 01:32 PM
Bobby, I think you need to educate yourself a little before you start calling someone dense. You are starting to get a little annoying.
quote: Bobby Henderson
Their theater map shows 4 theater types: IMAX 3D, IMAX, IMAX Dome and Coming Soon. No difference between film or digital.
Go back and read what it says. Under IMAX Theatre and IMAX Dome they both say they are using 15/70 technology.
Under IMAX 3D they say they are using both IMAX Digital and IMAX Retrofit for film. However, this a little outdated and likely has not been updated for a while now.
IMAX does not have anymore 15/70 MPX IMAX locations, that is fact, there is no getting around this fact. I know this is fact because IMAX themselves have said this and written this fact in financial paperwork that is released in their 2012 financial report. This paperwork can found on the IMAX website.
I copied this right from their paperwork.
IMAX MPX. In 2003, the Company launched a large-format theater system designed specifically for use in multiplex theaters. Known as IMAX MPX, this system had lower capital and operating costs than other IMAX systems and was intended to improve a multiplex owner’s financial returns and to allow for the installation of IMAX theater systems in markets that might previously not have been able to support one. As at December 31, 2012, there were no MPX systems in operation compared to 6 MPX systems as at December 31, 2011. The IMAX digital system has supplanted the MPX system as the Company’s multiplex product. The decrease in the number of MPX systems is attributable to the upgrade of existing MPX systems to IMAX digital systems.
quote: Bobby Henderson
or any of its advertising between true IMAX theaters equipped with 15-perf 70mm film projection and those that are merely digital.
Complete bullshit. IMAX says they are using DLP technology right after the IMAX countdown trailer and just before the feature presentation. I saw this on Gravity in 3D and I saw this on Hunger Games Catching Fire.
If you see an IMAX movie in any of the nine Cineplex locations in my province, you will be seeing an IMAX digital presentation. That is a fact, there is no way around this fact.
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