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Jarod Reddig
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I'm gunna do just that Brian. I actually have been going there since I was a kid and love going there. I also really enjoy the space center and museum there.

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Kurt Zupin
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quote: Geoff Jones
The Hobbit: Episode III got pushed to December 2014. That gives them more time to add more minutes and extra frames per second.

I stand corrected, I thought it was originally set for December 2014 then it was moved up to June/July.

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Jim Henk
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So is there a way to get the current list of 15/70 theatres left?

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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LF Examiner list of USA theaters

LF Examiner list of non-USA theaters

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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From what I have heard, just 15 70mm IMAX prints have been made for Catching Fire. I am not sure about Sydney IMAX, but they may be running it in 2K digital.

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Dick Vaughan
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Well we have print #2 in Bradford and #12 is in Dearborn Michigan

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John Wilson
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quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
From what I have heard, just 15 70mm IMAX prints have been made for Catching Fire. I am not sure about Sydney IMAX, but they may be running it in 2K digital.
It's 15/7O at Sydney IMAX in Darling Harbour.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Thanks John for the clarification.

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Bobby Henderson
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AFAIK the Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum in Austin has not installed a digital projection system (yet) and has played plenty of Hollywood movies with 15-perf 70mm IMAX film prints. They're apparently playing the latest Hunger Games movie with an IMAX film print.

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Steve Kraus
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Portions of Hunger Games were said to have been shot in true IMAX. Does anyone know what the workflow was between neg and print? Does it open up to full IMAX height for those scenes?

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Steve, Catching Fire has about 50 minutes of IMAX footage.

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Jock Blakley
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Melbourne has CATCHING FIRE in 15/70 too.

They state on their website that the 15/70 capability will be removed in "late 2014" to facilitate the conversion to laser.

(Ironically this is stated in the paragraph immediately after they profess their commitment to continuing to show 15/70).

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Lyle Romer
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With the laser projection I'm dissapointed that IMAX didn't decide to do a precision aligned 4 projector system to make 8K instead of the overlapped 2 projector 4K. 8K would probably be a true 15/70 replacement and it would at least have IMAX providing a markedly better image than a run of the mill theatre.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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quote: Jock Blakley
Melbourne has CATCHING FIRE in 15/70 too.

They state on their website that the 15/70 capability will be removed in "late 2014" to facilitate the conversion to laser.

(Ironically this is stated in the paragraph immediately after they profess their commitment to continuing to show 15/70).

This is exactly what IMAX should be doing long term for their largest screens. I have no issue with IMAX digital but every once in a while there should be an IMAX 15/70 release that will satisfy the hard-core fans and keep the demand to see 15/70 screenings. Even with the roll-out of laser technology, IMAX should still preserve these rare opportunities.

I am not sure if you looked at the upcoming movies, but IMAX Melbourne will be showing The Hobbit 2 in both 15/70 and HFR digital 3D, how is that for selection?

Something does tell me that IMAX is not fitting the bill for IMAX Melbourne and Sydney for the film prints, I just can't imagine IMAX offering these two theatres a 15/70 print when the digital projectors are already installed.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Lyle Romer
With the laser projection I'm dissapointed that IMAX didn't decide to do a precision aligned 4 projector system to make 8K instead of the overlapped 2 projector 4K.
There are numerous reasons. First, and most obviously, there's little if any 8K content to play. 4K is the current, standard top end, for DI, CGI, effects compositing and videography. A few movies have been digitally treated in 8K resolution, but often with certain compromises.

Then there's the issue of IMAX wanting their 2nd generation d-cinema projection system to work on screens possibly larger than the ones that showed 15-perf 70mm film. IMHO, that's not really a good idea. It would be a lot better to keep screen sizes down to some limit in size that way we can actually see a noticeable improvement with sharpness & detail over the fuzzy or jaggy images IMAX' 2K system has been showing.

As it stands, not nearly enough movies are being produced in 4K as it is. Too many movie productions prefer to render the final product in mere 2K either to make 3D more economical or produce 2D movies in 2K to just to save even more money. 4K has 4 times the pixel count of 2K. Even with all the latest jumps in computer processing power, 4K will always take a lot longer and cost more than 2K to render.

While I would love to see Hollywood movies move past the 4K barrier, up to 6K, 8K and even higher, there's various obstacles standing in the way of that. Computer technology must improve to handle the data bandwidth of storage needs of such formats in a fast & practical manner. Imaging chips for video cameras and projectors aren't there yet. I imagine camera and projector lenses would need some serious improvement.

Outside of technology, higher resolution imagery will reveal flaws and other shortcomings in movie sets, costume designs, crap that got into the shot but might have otherwise been missed at a lower resolution, etc. Finally, actors are extremely age conscious. A female star past the age of 30 or 40 might not like a camera and lens system that shows every skin pore, fleck of pancake makeup and any hint of aging that might be taking place.

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