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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 11-28-2013 07:29 AM

quote: Lyle Romer
With the laser projection I'm dissapointed that IMAX didn't decide to do a precision aligned 4 projector system to make 8K instead of the overlapped 2 projector 4K. 8K would probably be a true 15/70 replacement and it would at least have IMAX providing a markedly better image than a run of the mill theatre.

Lyle, IMAX just announced that they have signed on with a company that will scan IMAX 70mm films for 4K releases. With the roll out of the new Barco 4K projectors, IMAX will ensure that there is 4K content of there classic 70mm documentary releases. They did not specify if the analogue to digital conversion is higher than 4K scanning. This content is for the museum/purpose built theatres.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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posted 02-27-2014 11:45 AM

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Last I read in LF Examiner, IMAX 4k projectors with laser illumination for dome screen have a projected commercial rollout in the second half of 2015. Flat screens in second half of 2014.

Recent marketing email from IMAX claims that IMAX GT Digital Dome installations begin in early 2016.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 02-27-2014 11:53 PM

Just domes, the flat screens will begin in the fall of 2014. So far there are about 65 laser projection agreements for the IMAX backlog that have been confirmed.

As long as Kodak supplies film, there will be IMAX 15/70 prints, Interstellar will not be the last 15/70 film.

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Dick Vaughan
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posted 02-28-2014 06:30 AM

But it may be the last feature length to have more than a handful of 1570 film prints.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 02-28-2014 11:05 AM

IMAX is actually building more 15/70 cameras (If you can believe it) for studio use, directors are still using the cameras and the cameras are in high demand. Interstellar is not the definitive "last" 15/70 feature length release.

Catching Fire and Hobbit 3 will get prints.

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Jim Henk
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posted 03-02-2014 09:14 PM

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
Catching Fire and Hobbit 3 will get prints.

Really? That would be nice. Here's hoping you're right on target with this news. [beer]

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 03-03-2014 11:25 AM

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Really? That would be nice. Here's hoping you're right on target with this news. [beer]

IMAX is not going to stop supplying theaters with 15/70 prints. There are still over 140+ IMAX locations that are 15/70 only.

As long as Kodak is still around and the distributors are willing to pay for prints, then the existing 15/70 theaters will still get prints. The big difference is that the distributors will not pay for prints for just any IMAX release. (I am not a 100% but I think individual IMAX locations have to pay for their own prints)

Island of Lemurs
Transformers Age of Extinction
Interstellar
Hunger Games 3 (not sure how well Catching Fire did)
Hobbit 2

Should all get prints.

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Gordon McLeod
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posted 03-03-2014 01:45 PM

Paying for the print was the norm for IMAX theatres for years

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 03-04-2014 02:04 AM

Yes, for standalone IMAX venues like Niagara, but for studio DMR content, the cost is paid for by the studio. I think some 15/70 prints in Australia for The Hobbit and Catching Fire were paid by individual IMAX locations.

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Dick Vaughan
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posted 03-04-2014 06:37 AM

For DMR prints there is usually a minimum guarantee that the theatre has to agree to cover print costs . For a 3D 2hr 40 minute film this can be in the region of $60-80K US.

The price used to be lower when there were more theatres screening DMR on film but this number has rapidle decreased over the last 2-3 years . The cost of producing the negative etc was spread over more sites.

For example there were only 20-30 Hobbit 2 prints as far as I know as against 100 or so for The Dark Knight Rises.

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Cameron Glendinning
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posted 03-11-2014 05:25 PM

The DMR prints for Sydney IMAX, ie Hobbit 2 or Catching Fire were paid for by the local distributors. The film prints do seem to make more money than the digital releases and some distributors are willing to pay to make more money.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 03-11-2014 06:43 PM

quote: Dick Vaughan
For DMR prints there is usually a minimum guarantee that the theatre has to agree to cover print costs . For a 3D 2hr 40 minute film this can be in the region of $60-80K US.

Dick, IMAX is on record stating that an IMAX DMR print at about 2hrs is around $25k and a 3D movie is about $35-40k.

The chain cinemas have never paid for the cost of the prints, once again IMAX is on record stating that the cost of prints is paid for by the studio.

quote: Cameron Glendinning
The DMR prints for Sydney IMAX, ie Hobbit 2 or Catching Fire were paid for by the local distributors. The film prints do seem to make more money than the digital releases and some distributors are willing to pay to make more money.

Bigger movies should make more money regardless of film vs digital debate, Gravity grossed $100 million from IMAX alone and Gravity was all digital.

I do agree that the more knowledgeable fans will turn out for film if there is the option, but generally IMAX on film is usually a big tentpole type production.

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Gordon McLeod
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posted 03-12-2014 09:40 AM

a 40min IMAX print runs around $30K so i question a feature for less price and there is guarentees required on them even for commercial theatres that are charged against revenue

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 03-12-2014 10:40 AM

Gord, IMAX lists right on their website for anyone to view, they state an IMAX DMR print is around $20K for 2D and $45K for 3D. They also explain how converting to digital will result in a saving to the studio, and not the chain for a DMR print.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 03-12-2014 11:48 AM

And we all know that if something is on the Internet it most definitely and certainly is positively true. Especially on a CORPORATE website. [Roll Eyes]

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