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Author Topic: How much time left for film? Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-02-2008 07:47 PM                     Mark, where did you get your information on the CDXL line of lamps not being designed for more lumen output...that is complete crap and I don't care who misinformed you (or if you are just speaking out of your butt). They are shorter arc lamps, which are inherently more light efficient/watt. Now the design of their anode is decidedly different and no doubt is trying to keep the "burn-back" to a minimum. My own current experimentation on the "45" is showing nearly a 40% increase in light over a "40" AND the burn-back is notably slower....in fact, where as a typical lamp loses 20% of its light in the first 100 hours, the CDXL-45 lost only about 10%...even after 300 hours it hasn't dropped 20%. I suspect that part of long life is dependant on the extra effective lumens since one is going to run the lamp at less power when new...as such it will age pretty slowly then...kinda like lowering the current on LEDs in the sound system. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-02-2008 08:41 PM                     Steve, I am referring to the "Sooper Dooper" line of lamps... as you call them. Not the standard "short gap" CDXL series of lamps. Christie classifies the Sooper Doopers as being able to keep the maximum rated lumen output over the rated life span of the lamp when running said lamp at maximum rated current. Simple as that. I have been told this by at least three different people at Christie. Although I doubt that you have yet to get one of the yet to be released "Sooper Dooper" 6kw's to try but if you have and your findings are different than mine then you should report your findings to Christie... not to me. For now at least I will utilize these lamps as Christie reccomends them to be used, and that is very specific. Mark  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-02-2008 09:13 PM                        quote: Bobby Henderson 3D had nothing to do with the lack of commercial success for U23D. I never said it did, did I? My point was, that after Hannah was a hit, the "suits" thought any concert movie would be money in the bank. WRONG, proof being the U2 film and also "Shine a Light." (Which isn't a concert movie really but hopefully you get my drift.)  |  IP: Logged Brad Allen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 688 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 06-02-2008 09:26 PM                     Center of the earth is available on good ole amercian film stock as well as that new fangled digtal "stuff".  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-02-2008 11:36 PM                        If Journey to the Center of the Earth will have a 2D release, they sure aren't putting the word out there. I checked WB's exhibitor relations site and there is no mention of a 2D release. I sent an email to our exhibitor relations rep on the issue. The thing that really bothers me if there is a 2D release is that the movie is being completely branded as 3D which will ensure that non-3D theatres will have many complaints refunds.  |  IP: Logged Michael McGovern Film Handler Posts: 57 From: New Britain, CT, USA Registered: May 2008 posted 06-03-2008 12:27 AM                    At this stage in the game, it would be financial suicide for a studio to release any major film in 3-D only, which is why so far we've only see repository titles like Nightmare Before Christmas, and films with very little in the way of production costs like Hannah Montana, as far as films only available in 3-D. There just aren't enough 3-D screens out there yet for a major 3-D only release to be possible. This raises an interesting point however, if Dreamworks plans to release all their upcoming titles from now on in 3-D, does that mean there's not going to be a 2-D release at all? Are they going to pressure exhibitors to increase the adoption rate on the Real D projectors to ensure that there's at least one theater in every major market in the country that has one? As of right now that's certainly not the case at all. Eventually it's going to become push vs shove with the studios jumping on this 3-D Bandwagon against the Exhibitors forced to adopt the expensive equipment to support it, and I think in the end, the exhibitors are going to win. Check me off in the 3-D is a gimmick that people will quickly get tired of, category.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-03-2008 10:42 AM                        If Dreamworks is only going to release their films only in D3D they are cutting their throats as far as subruns and kids shows at all of the mom&pop places that specialize in those things. Kids shows particularly have a life span years longer than the first run release. Granted, they don't pull in the bucks the first release does, but money is money. Or maybe they are going to go the Disney route and pull their films from distribution until it is time for a rerelease.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-04-2008 10:08 AM                        They will RELEASE the films in 2D as well as 3D. The big problem is, will they PROMOTE both types? I'm guessing no. They will blare the "IT'S IN 3-D!!!" message as loud as they can and ignore the 2D situations. People who don't have 3D should prepare some signs apologizing for the fact the movie isn't in 3D, but touting all the good things about that: No uncomfortable glasses, no eyestrain, no headache, and so on.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-04-2008 10:45 AM                     That would be kind of strange to pitch some pro-2D messages in a theater that was showing the movie in both 2D and 3D, which has been a somewhat common thing for releases like Beowulf and Meet the Robinsons. I think the higher price of the 3D show is probably enough to make customers think twice about whether they want to watch the 3D version or just choose the 2D version on another screen.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-06-2008 11:13 PM                        Yeah, if the 2D is being shown on a decent sized screen. But if it's a choice between the 600-seat, 60' 3-D screen and a 60-seat, 16' 2-D screen... might be tempting to just wait for the vid.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-07-2008 12:23 AM                        From what I'm hearing through my sources, it sounds like New Line had intended Journey to be a 3D only release. But now that WB is in charge, they want it 2D as well as 3D. We received some new one sheets where the 3D was removed from the title and it just says "See it in Real D in select theatres". I don't know when they changed their campaign because I stopped paying attention to the movie when I was under the assumption we wouldn't be able to play it. But it certainly makes that second weekend of July more complicated for my 5 screen theatre.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-07-2008 01:01 AM                    my advice might be to pass on it. I think it's going to be a huge flop. It looks terrible, it has Branden Fraser and word of mouth is going to choke it to death. I think Warner Brothers is just trying to get as much as they can out of it. I may be wrong in my thoughts but that's just how I feel.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-07-2008 09:29 AM                     Its also possiblke that 3-D may also make it into a decent passable film much like the original House Of Wax was. Now any of you that have seen the opriginal House Of Wax in 2 projector 3-D know how good it is... but watch it in 2-D on television and it turns it into a real dud. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-07-2008 10:12 AM                     I've seen House of Wax in 2-projector as well as single strip side-by-side. The 3-D worked well either way though the 2-projector was notably superior in several respects (brightness and ghosting...not in the shutter since). Steve  |  IP: Logged Damien Taylor Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 06-07-2008 11:56 AM                     Apart from the paddle man and the dancers, were there any other obvious 3D scenes in House Of Wax? Its been so long but I remember there were a few scenes in the 2D version where it seems like they were showing off. But the story still holds up quite well, probably since the director couldn't see 3D.  |  IP: Logged

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