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Author Topic: Regal Theatre's RPX "Regal Premium Experience" Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 04-20-2010 11:55 AM                        Unless AMC changed the screens at some of their recently installed fake IMAX locations, the screens are still Torus and they are putting 3D on those. quote: Mike Olpin The theaters that will succeed over the next few years will be the ones that make every single regularly priced show a premium experience by ensuring their staff is courteous and attentive, their screens are adequately lit, their sound systems are correctly tuned, and the auditoriums are clean and comfortable. Truer words could not be spoken.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Althaus Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Bedford, TX Registered: Dec 2008 posted 04-20-2010 02:56 PM                     In regards to Cinemark's XD system..... They are experimenting with a dual setup, but haven't been able to convince the bigwigs to let them go ahead, but the XD barco's supposedly are 4k-compatible. AMC says 50kW of sound, well XD has more, but I'm not saying how much.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 04-20-2010 04:38 PM                     even at 2K at the moment, The Barco system at the Cinemark Egyptian 24 for the screening of 'How to Train Your Dragon' (3D) superceded the Sony 4K DP presentation I saw at my local AMC theatre.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-20-2010 06:19 PM                     The funny thing about these Regal/AMC Sony installs is that they won't be able to use the Sony projectors. They are not capable of lighting up screens that large. Hence they will be moving around the larger 2K DLP projectors from other sites to fill these needs. Has to be lots of fun interfacing a Dolby server with Sony's servers and the LMS System! Mark  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 04-21-2010 08:56 AM                     Wouldn't it make more sense for them in the long term to go with a 2 projector Sony setup then to have 1 DLP screen and 15 Sony SXRD screens in a complex?  |  IP: Logged Tom Mundell Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Silver Spring, MD, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 04-21-2010 10:36 AM                        quote: Joe Redifer Unless AMC changed the screens at some of their recently installed fake IMAX locations, the screens are still Torus and they are putting 3D on those. Wouldn't they have to replace the screens in order to put speakers behind them, or would Imax really allow them to keep the speaker on ceiling design?  |  IP: Logged Galen Murphy-Fahlgren Master Film Handler Posts: 405 From: Canton, MI, USA Registered: Oct 2007 posted 04-21-2010 10:54 AM                     quote: Original article the best picture you've ever heard! What? Oh man, I have wasted my stupid little life merely seeing picture, when I could have been hearing it? quote: Tom Mundell would Imax really allow For $5, they will let you tattoo IMAX™ on your ass and put a picture of it on a billboard. They, like most people, no longer have standards, just coffers. And that is why, sooner or later, they will end up without coffers either.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 04-21-2010 11:22 AM                     WOAHHH!!!! XD Screens are only 2K at Cinemarks? I thought they were 4K projectors (again not that there is any 4K content available.) This is still a HUGE mistake though because with 3D it's half the resolution of 2K when you go through one lens and a mirror. I was sure I had heard somewhere that XD screens were 4K. . .  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 04-21-2010 11:35 AM                     the manager I spoke with stated the XD screen (at the Egyptian) was 2K - I did my slightly confused face and stated: "really?" He knew it was a Barco projector. I thought the whole 4K DLP rollout wasn't until later in the year, none of the press releases I've seen like Christie's Solaria system give no exact date. As for 4K content, why is that there are a very, very few releases ('Blade Runner' 'Dr. Strangelove' at LA Landmark's theatre being the exception) - you'd think that Sony would advocate studios to release more films in 4K for it's 4K LCoS projectors.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 04-21-2010 11:46 AM                     Well, "4K" cameras aren't really resolving 4K. It's complicated. 4K arguably out-resolves 35mm 3-perf., but 4-perf. might be safe. There really isn't that much content available. Arguably quality has been going backwards continuously in this industry since the late 1960s. ECN-2 (high speed color negative developer at the cost of quality and fine grain), faster and faster films starting in the early 1980s (and now EVERYTHING is shot on 500T film instead of the fine-grained 50D or 100T stuff), high speed printers, digital intermediates, and the like have progressively lowered the bar. Most of these digital movies, like "Date Night" are, God only knows why, cropped to scope from a camera with a flat chip, so they are only 800 lines high on the master film positive, you're probably only getting 5- or 600 lines on a 35mm film print. It's befuddling that a television show from the '60s, like "Mission Impossible" could hold up better on a 4K projector than a digitally-shot movie like "Date Night" or "The Informant" from forty years later.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 04-21-2010 11:53 AM                    To make matters slighty worse, IF it were 4K, the only 4K DCI available today, that is the Sony SRXD Lcos projectors, when you make it 3D, it of course only offers 2K image(s). Except that 2K is, by DCI own specs, 1998x1080 when projecting 1.85 content. Well, the optics in the 3D waste a line 80 pixels tall in the middle of the chip, so each (eyes') 3D image is only a (non-DCI compliant, mind you) 1980x1040. Don't know if the content is just cropped or (worse?) re-scaled.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 04-21-2010 12:14 PM                     EXACTLY, Julio. So in order to project a true 2K 3D image (which is a measley 3MP or so) you NEED a 4K projector with dual lenses. I know that 2K is 1/4 the resolution of 4K, and that the middle is roughly 3K (3.2K), but what is 1/2 of 4K when you are splitting the frame down the middle??? "Ks" increase by squares and decrease by square roots, but when you split an image in half it's an arithmetic, not a logarithmic change.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 04-21-2010 12:45 PM                     quote: Jonathan Smith WOAHHH!!!! XD Screens are only 2K at Cinemarks? This is precisely why I am so disappointed in the deceptive marketing of the various "X-systems" out there. All of the ones I have seen or know anything about are nothing special, except for the seats, and they don't even look good. My friend's camera phone picture on page 1 of this thread should well prove that. Just look how AWFUL the illumination uniformity is! These sort of systems have such large screens they should be using white screens, not silver (or high gain) and 2 projectors. If they want 3D, then they should be using the Dolby 3D system. A large silver screen is nothing but a disaster of presentation. Yes customers are stupid and yes the people who are designing these sort of setups are smarter than the customers. I get it. The trick (or scam if you want to be blunt) works and extra money is being made. However in the end, if we as exhibitors don't BLOW AWAY the customers in every regard, we will find ourselves back in the same situation fighting for patronage over their home theater setups.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 04-21-2010 01:43 PM                     Keep in mind, though, that some of that could be shitty cell phone camera optics too, not that I am doubting that they did a shit job installing the screen, projector. I'd almost not WANT to see 2K on a 60-foot screen. It looks bad enough on a 30- or a 40. Someone at AMC needs to know about this. I am going to talk to them and try to get someone to put in "Twice the resolution of XD, Sony 4K projectors or 12MP projectors or something." These guys can market whatever they want to, but, in terms of Ks, the numbers really don't lie, even if the fL levels still suck at 4K with a silver screen and 3D. And unfortunately, I think they can only play 3D movies on their 4Ks currently.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 04-21-2010 02:43 PM                     Brad, RE the picture on your post on page 1, were they seriously projecting a TEST PATTERN during the trailers?!? WTF!! That is akin to projecting the timing leader on film to the audience!! And some on here wonder why I hate D-Cinema so much....  |  IP: Logged

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