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Topic: Regal Theatre's RPX "Regal Premium Experience"
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Jonathan Smith
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 201
From: Youngstown, OH
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted 04-21-2010 02:51 PM
quote: That is akin to projecting the timing leader on film to the audience!!
What's the matter with that?
While I never let the audience see a foot of head leader, I will occasionally let the film "roll out" at the end. More often then not it produces an interesting conversation through the port glass.
One guy I met used to be a projectionist himself, and said he was glad to know that all the chains weren't still using timers and trained booth monkeys, or worse, managers.
Of course, he was shocked to learn how little I made. Adjusted for inflation, projectionists make half of what they made 20 years ago,and that is *in* the Union.
Granted, we don't have carbon arcs to deal with anymore, but there is a plethora of other bullshit that you have to be in the know about, malfunctioning digital preview projectors, over a dozen screens per person at some theatres, and of course all of the "Big Three" theatres don't give a fuck about fixing any film equipment anymore, so it's a constant battle to keep it from having to be refurbished. . . a second time around.
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Tony Bandiera Jr
Film God

Posts: 3067
From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-21-2010 04:36 PM
quote: What's the matter with that? [Wink]
While I never let the audience see a foot of head leader, I will occasionally let the film "roll out" at the end. More often then not it produces an interesting conversation through the port glass.
I hope, but seriously doubt, that you are joking.
A true projectionist is a master of illusion, the whole point being for the audience to NOT be aware in ANY way of the technical details of the presentation. That means that the show starts on time, (WITHOUT showing the timing leader), in frame, in focus, at the appropriate volume level, and that the END of the show is a smooth transition from the on-screen image to non-sync, closing curtains (remember those?) and SLOWLY raising house lighting.
It is attitudes like the one you just expressed which has discredited a lot of projectionists and has accelerated the demise of the Unions as they allowed any hack with a pulse to sign on to keep membership up. One of the few smart things management ever did was throw out the Unions when they could no longer provide COMPETENT, PROFESSIONAL projectionists.
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Tony Bandiera Jr
Film God

Posts: 3067
From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-22-2010 10:10 PM
quote: Jonathan Smith Tony, I find it very offensive what you said in your last post.
If you want to personally attack me or the IATSE Projectionist Unions, at least don't be passive-aggressive about it.
I have only one thing to say to you sir, which is read the following:
quote: Forum Gatekeeper The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability for all eternity.
I do not care if you don't like me or what I say here, especially when I am stating the facts as they exist here in Los Angeles. If you read that as a personal attack, so be it. It was not intended as such.
On topic, I generally commend Regal Cinemas as the vast majority of them I have screened films at do a great job on presentation (other than too many trailers but that's a universal thing these days.)
It remains to be seen if the public will actually pony up the extra money for the "premium" experience. As long as the individual locations deliver the goods in a consistent manner, it seems to be a step in the right direction.
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Jack Ondracek
Film God

Posts: 2348
From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 04-22-2010 11:52 PM
Guess I'm with Tony on this, though I hope not to be flamed for the opinion.
When I was a union projectionist, my goal was to make 6 reels look like one, and to prevent anything from attracting attention toward the booth... and to repeat that 3 to 5 times a day.
Now that everything's automated, my philosophy toward the booth is the same as what I've applied to the broadcast automation I program... that the automation should emulate ME. If it can do that, then it should add a level of consistency that would be difficult for any but the most attentive (anal) projectionist. And... after the initial programming is figured out, changing shows shouldn't be that difficult.
That said, I would never allow something that wasn't intended as part of the show to hit the screen (or sound)... especially heads or tails leader. For my part, I can't see why anyone would force attention toward the port glass... unless he was lonely or something.
It's nice that people remember 35mm. If someone figures that out at my place, they're likely as not to get a "cook's tour" offered them. As it is, I'm amazed how many people think I've got a glorified DVD player upstairs.
So what? If it projects the intended presentation quality and the customer feels they got their money's worth, who cares what they think put the show on the screen... or how?
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Lyle Romer
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1400
From: Davie, FL, USA
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-23-2010 09:33 AM
quote: Julio Roberto To make matters slighty worse, IF it were 4K, the only 4K DCI available today, that is the Sony SRXD Lcos projectors, when you make it 3D, it of course only offers 2K image(s).
Except that 2K is, by DCI own specs, 1998x1080 when projecting 1.85 content.
Well, the optics in the 3D waste a line 80 pixels tall in the middle of the chip, so each (eyes') 3D image is only a (non-DCI compliant, mind you) 1980x1040.
Don't know if the content is just cropped or (worse?) re-scaled.
Does the Sony 3D solution use the whole width of the chip and do an anamporphic squeeze or do they just use a small rectangle for each eye that leaves 1/2 the horizontal pixels unused.
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