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Jeremy Weigel
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Isn't that what the "scheduler" function is for? So you don't even have to click play.

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Monte L Fullmer
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I wondered on that one as well since I've used the schedulers before ...

Guess it keeps jobs for floor personnel alive to give them something to do so the show will definitely be on the screen instead of depending on a program to start the show.

But,to learn the schedule process on some servers can be a trick in itself for it to function correctly. Thus, it's just easier to send someone upstairs to hit "Play".

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Brad Miller
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Most preshow systems DO have that functionality Monte. Its up to the theater as to whether it is tied in or not.

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Scott Norwood
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So...wait...there are automated D-cinema installs where someone still has to manually start the show? Umm...why? If there is nothing that might need adjustment (focus, framing, sound) at show start, then why would this not be automated? If the automation system is any good, it should sound an alarm if something goes wrong (bulb explodes, server doesn't play, etc.) at show start, anyway.

We've had timer-started film presentations for how many years now? And yet people are still starting D-cinema shows manually?

(I'm talking about multiplexes where everything else--house lights, sound, etc. is automated...not manually run booths.)

I still haven't worked with "modern" D-cinema equipment, but this stuff seems pretty half baked from an operational perspective. At least the installations do.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Scott,

Sure... In booths where there are still film projection systems and projectionnists this is pretty common. It is also common at busy locations that may frequently hold the start of a show for various reasons.

Mark

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Louis Bornwasser
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They already do in out cinemas. Louis

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Joe Redifer
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LOL @ any digital theater that has to start shows manually. That's just sad.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yea, it is quite humerous to see with the modernization of DCinema that the need of button pushers, mouse clickers, and touchpad tappers are still needed to make sure that the show hits the screen correctly and on time ...

..and the use of the schedulers are not allowed...

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Dustin Mitchell
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There is no reason at all for any of that. Bad install or wasteful company policy is not the fault of DCinema; I would also wager that most DCinema installs are running properly with automatic starts, either via scheduler or pre-show.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Oh do fully agree.

I used to work in a small circuit that had three locations with digital with GDC servers.

One location where the scheduler was used all the time. Another location, the scheduler wasn't working too well, thus they ran the programs manually, and the last location had to go manual since their business didn't justify using the scheduler so they could save the hours on the bulb.

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Steve Guttag
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That makes no sense...what system can't strike the lamp automatically? All of our traditional DCinemas run automatically. Even the Master Image can be started/stopped, raised/lowered automatically. I think the only thing that is not automated is the change between 2D and 3D on the player end because Dolby hasn't allowed for that to be automated. I suspect some just leave it in 3D mode run in 4:2:2 color space to keep everything automated!

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Scott Norwood
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I'm told that the AMC house that does most of the press screenings in the Boston area tends to leave the 3D attachment (not sure on the details) in place for 2D press screenings, thus causing the picture to be extra-dark. This is the biggest cinema in town, and one which is, sadly, not known for presentation quality (film or [dlp] ).

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Scott Norwood
I'm told that the AMC house that does most of the press screenings in the Boston area tends to leave the 3D attachment (not sure on the details) in place for 2D press screenings, thus causing the picture to be extra-dark.
Wow, that's just nuts...for several reasons!

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote:
some just leave it in 3D mode run in 4:2:2 color space to keep everything automated!

Wouldn't that cause the projected colors to be all out of whack where you have a image mainly in green and red?

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Steve Guttag
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Not if you have the projector also be expecting 4:2:2 color on the HDSDI-A spigot.

-Steve

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