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Jock Blakley
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quote: Paul Gordon
A new 70mm print with DTS of Baraka was made when they released the Blu-ray a couple years back. I talked to Mark about, but our Venue only had Mag at the time so we booked that. I'm sure its kept for special shows only, rarely going out.
Presumably struck from the OCN or the new I/POS then, rather than any 8K or 4K film-out.

I won't hold my breath until I see it, as much as it would be nice as our 70mm print got a bit beaten-up before we got hold of it.

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Daniel Schulz
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I confirmed with the post production supervisor on Baraka, the new 70mm print was an answer print off the negative. The 8k scan was used to down-rez to 2k for the Blu Ray and a 2k DCP.

Samsara was also scanned at 8k and down-rezzed to a 4k DI for a 4K DCP and possibly a 35mm filmout.

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Tom Doyle
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There is indeed a new 70mm print of Baraka in circulation, I've seen it. Unfortunately, it's just not as sharp as an original print. Also, the DTS audio did not seem to pack the same punch as an original mag track.

I've seen Baraka so many times in 70mm, I'm not sure how I feel about Samsara on the big screen in digital. Maybe I'll check it out if it plays in my area in 4k.

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Edward Havens
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I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Samsara being picked up for release this summer through Beastie Boy Adam Yauch's Oscilloscope Films...

Samsara

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Dick Vaughan
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I can now confirm that Samsara will be the closing night film of the 18th Bradford Film Festival on Sunday 29th April.

Details can be found here

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Brian Guckian
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Was lucky to be able to see this at Bradford and it was absolutely stunning in 4K - like watching a completely different film this time.

To see the incredible detail from that 65mm negative 4K is the only way to go, in lieu of a 70mm print.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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I am not really supposed to talk about the films I watch for work. However since this has already been screened in public in the UK and in Ireland I will make an exception on this occasion to say that Samsara is absolutely stunning in 4K and a must-see if you appreciate the visual arts. I'm lost for words to describe how detailed, colourful, and brilliantly executed some of the sequences were.

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Stephen Furley
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quote: Edward Havens
I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned Samsara being picked up for release this summer through Beastie Boy Adam Yauch's Oscilloscope Films...
On their website today:

"We are deeply, deeply saddened by the passing of Adam Yauch – an amazing leader, a dear friend and an incredible human being. Today we are heartbroken at Oscilloscope as we take in this awful news and our thoughts are with his family at this difficult time. Adam’s legacy will remain a driving force at Oscilloscope – his indomitable spirit and his great passion for film, people, and hard work – always with a sense of humor and a lot of heart."

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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SAMSARA will play in the Titan XC house at Consolidated' Ward Centre in mid October in digital 4k and 7.1 Dolby. Watching a movie in 3-D in this house is dreadful because the image is too dark but there should be no problem with SAMSARA because it is in 2-D. I am really looking forward to seeing this movie at the Ward.

-Claude

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Jonathan Goeldner
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I saw this earlier in the week at the new Angelika Mosaic theater in DLP 4K/7.1 and it was stunning to say the least

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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I finally had the opportunity to see SAMSARA late yesterday afternoon at the Ward 18 in the Victoria Ward Centre in Honolulu and it was everything I was expecting it to be. The film was very similar to BARAKA with it's world wide location settings and the way it was photographed and edited. Even the use of music was similar. The only thing different was the scenes that might disturb animal activists when chickens and other farm animals are either shown being slaughtered or being prepared for market after that have been killed at packing house assembly lines.

When I learned SAMSARA was coming to the Ward, the email notification I receive from Consolidated every week indicated it was booked into the Ward's Titan XC house and will be shown in 4k digital sound and 7.1 Dolby Digital Sound. When I saw the movie, it was not in the XC house but another large auditorium next door with a slightly smaller screen that was only equipped with Dolby 5.1 sound. The movie however was projected in 4k digital and it was awesome! It was so good, I now understand why the decision was made to release SAMSARA only in 4k instead of 70mm. In my opinion after watching many movies that were photographed in 65mm and released in 70mm, what I saw yesterday was just as good. From the image quality and the sound, I actually felt like I was watching a 70mm print.

-Claude

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
The only thing different was the scenes that might disturb animal activists when chickens and other farm animals are either shown being slaughtered or being prepared for market after that have been killed at packing house assembly lines.
Are you kidding? Animal Activists absolutely LOVE that kind of stuff. They think it will shock people into being vegetarians or boycotting KFC or some such nonsense. The dorks who made this movie are probably charter members of PETA hoping to "enlighten" their audience with awareness of animal cruelty. I'll just enlighten myself by not watching their video. They did something similar in Baraka with the chicks and showing chickens trapped laying eggs. They've got a huge political agenda that they just can't resist inserting into their crap. It's really annoying.

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Victor Liorentas
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I don't know, I think the only real agenda is to show images from anywhere and everywhere on the planet.Stuff that creates a mood and honesty about people and chickens being treated with indifference by the powers that be.
Another agenda may be to kill off 70mm projection!
It's all 4k this and 4k that...wtf? Really? So nobody has the will and skill to do 70mm right?
I mean I keep hearing crap about The Master having bob and weave or shimmer issues in 70mm!
I am right now showing a 35mm show print that's rock steady,perfect focus.Showing how great 35mm can be.I work insanely hard to keep my end of it spot on with new parts such as a new reflector,band straps,curved gate piece,new shutter and shutter drive assembly and hours of careful calibration.
Is anyone doing 70mm right where 4k is humbled a little?
WTF!! [Mad]

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Brad Miller
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If you were running a 35mm release print, you would've gotten it from Deluxe there in Canada and you would be crying about how awful the copy was...and there is nothing you or your equipment could do about it.

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Paul Gordon
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Deluxe in Toronto shut their lab down a few months back. Vision Global out of Montreal is doing all their release prints.

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