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Steve Guttag
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The nasty thing about the ICP issue was that even if you updated to 3.0 and above but had started the corruption...you still have it! The only way to eradicate it was to perform an ICP update/recover. Each of the OEMs had a separate but similar procedure whereby one saves their ICP settings (screen, source...etc. files), wipe the ICP, reformat it, load software on it from scratch and then reload your stuff back on...in essence, you are doing the same thing as reformatting your HDD in your computer and putting everything back.

The Enigma also, below 1.5 could be corrupt via date information it had in it. Again, updating to 1.5 and above would not fix the problem...just prevent it from happening again. The corruption due to an interruption of an Enigma procedure, however, can and does, still happen in 1.5 and beyond. I hear 1.8 will finally fix that one. I also hear that Enigma 1.7 adds new commands, if your server takes advantage of them to improve log extraction beyond what they can do now. But it is a two-ended step that your server company must take advantage.

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Frank Cox
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I have a Christie 2210 and a GDC server. Is this an issue that could affect me?

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Steve Guttag
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With a Christie S2 projector, the odds are diminished of the sudden power-off since the Enigma is on the PIB board, which remains powered (unless you kill the power to the projector).

However, you didn't specify the model of GDC. If you have an SX3000 OR a model with an IMB...then no you CAN'T be affected since there is no Enigma used for DCPs. But if you have an SX2000 or SX20001 (conventional mediablock) then yes, "you may be at risk"

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Frank Cox
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I just checked. I have a Christie CP2210 and a GDC 2001A.

If this enigma thing could be an issue, is there anything that I can or should be doing to prevent problems?

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Monte L Fullmer
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How about Doremi units? I know of ones that use the "Showvault" version.

Have to warn one owner that has a GDC 2100 full server at his drive-in location on this since he fully shuts his system totally off at the end of each night.

-Monte

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Carsten Kurz
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It's not a server, but a projector issue. Just that some server types hint towards the usage of HD-SDI connections with the Enigma board in the projector.

E.g. a standard Doremi DCP2000 or a 2k4 would use HD-SDI towards the projector, which needs the enigma board for operation, hence the projector COULD be affected.

A ShowVault (or a 2000/2k4 CONVERTED to a ShowVault) uses an IMB into the projector, so the enigma board is or could be there, but is not used, hence no risc.

- Carsten

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Vegard Olsen
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The Doremi have in Diagnostic Tool an option to "purge all projector logs" which will read all entries on the LD, similar to the script Dolby added in version 4.7.x. I believe Doremi introduced this option in version 2.2.5.

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Carsten Kurz
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Again, this only solves the issue of full ld logs, when automatic download did not happen for a long time. It does not help with corrupt LD-Log memory and bricked enigma boards.

Also, the ICP memory corruption issue mentioned above is field serviceable. A bricked enigma is not.

- Carsten

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Steve Guttag
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It looks like NEC is the first out of the gate with Enigma 1.8!

Oddly, NEC changed their main software package (4.212) on the same date as they issued Enigma 1.8. It is odd in that NEC 4.212 still installs Enigma 1.7. They have one manually update the Enigma to 1.8 (still in the DCC but using the manual Enigma update buttons).

So it should be a matter of time before the other two follow suit. The next question is...do the server companies have to add new extraction commands to take advantage of the "improvements" to the Enigma or will it just fix itself/prevent corruption issues.

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Marco Giustini
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NEC have released Enigma 1.8, how long will it take for Barco to add it?

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Dave Macaulay
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Barco seems happy to keep going with 1.6. I don't know when that will change.

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Steve Guttag
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My inside sources say that they were waiting for 1.8. So I think we'll see it by August.

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Brad Miller
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Barco added enigma v1.8 on June 30th.

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Steve Guttag
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Note, NEC, as of SP 4.214 now include Enigma 1.8 as part of the service pack. Also the DCC was updated to allow a hot button to read Enigma logs.

Looks like Christie will be the last out of the gate on this one but I would suspect that it hits the streets in the near future.

Note, the date from Barco was probably when it was approved for issue...it didn't hit My Barco until 7/10/14 (I've had my eye on it).

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Mattias Mattsson
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Can anyone confirm if the Solaria Release v4.2.1 (2) released July 8th contains Enigma v1.8?

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