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Author Topic: T.M.S. software programs (stand alone) Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-30-2014 02:48 PM                     Makes good sense to continue to use it since you are using it at other sites and those people are familiar with it. If you transfer managers around very much then it's also no brainer for them. Steve Guttag... You don't have to resort to Velcro. Get a box of cable hanger loops at the electric supply. They come in all sorts of sizes and are quite inexpensive. They are typically 5/8" wide with larger sizes being even wider. Mark  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-21-2014 02:26 PM                        Here we go: We have a seven screen location using 7 Christie Solaria Ones. They have the Netgear ReadyNas network attached storage devices being used to store content. We would like to be utilizing GDC's TMS program to monitor and control content. Here's where we have run into a problem and I am trying to get a straight answer from someone, so it brings me to the forums: The Media Network. What is the best way to set up a Media Network so we can transfer content from auditorium to auditorium? There is no manual or instructions for this. Where I have run into a problem is - that I keep getting different answers from different people. Since the theatre will be monitored by a N.O.C., the second N.I.C. port on the back of the N.A.S. is supposed to go into the management switch and have an I.P. address on the Management network. The other N.I.C. on the back of the N.A.S. goes directly into the I.M.B. I was told to utilize the NAS 2 N.I.C. port on the side of the projector/I.M.B. for media communication. I tried this and it did not work. It may have not worked for various reasons. But, does this sound correct? I have one vendor telling me that you can only transfer content from NAS to NAS, and another vendor telling me that you can only transfer content from IMB to IMB. Does anyone know for sure which is true?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-21-2014 02:45 PM                     The simple (and surprisingly obvious answer) is to set it up however your NOC tells you to. They are the ones monitoring. Also each NOC has various subnets they need utilized for reasons internal to their monitoring structure. If your NOC can't tell you how to set it up, clearly you're using the wrong NOC!  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-21-2014 03:12 PM                        There lies the problem. They cannot or will not answer that question. I did not chose the N.O.C. service that is being used. I believe I got my answer from someone else outside this forum. But it does not change the fact that these companies cannot provide a manual or instructions for this new equipment. Yes, I have a Solaria One installation and user's guide. But it does not specify how to network multiple projectors together. I also have a Netgear ReadyNas user's manual - but it doesn't tell me either. Anyways, while I have this one solved, I have stumbled upon other puzzling questions. Like - Why does a N.O.C. need the Network Attached Storage on the Projection Management network?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-21-2014 03:53 PM                     If it's Strong they supply a sheet for each site with the specified IP, subnets and other related settings. Makes it pretty easy to set up a TMS. If it is them and they are not sending you a sheet then get another NOC! Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-21-2014 03:57 PM                     BTW...if you have this one solved...why not share it for the next guy?  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 07-21-2014 04:18 PM                     Dennis, the Solaria One(+) has/had a few flaws, but in general, Christie provides good documentation. Of, course, it always depends on who you talk to. And if you are using a non-Christie TMS, then you're on our own on that part. Regarding network topology for Christies IMB + NAS, read this: http://www.christiedigital.com/SupportDocs/Anonymous/020-200258-02-Christie-BUL-INFO-IMB-Best-Practices.pdf - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-22-2014 09:37 AM                        Steve, This information bulletin is what I have been looking for. Even though I had it verbally told to me - what is in the above post is exactly what I have been looking for - for over a month now. No one at Christie told me about it. Thank you!  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-26-2014 11:13 PM                        As of 8/27/14 I have successfully installed the G.D.C. T.M.S. software at a location using exclusively Christie Solaria Ones. I am able to send content across the network, send out schedules, ingest keys, etc. etc. While it was painful and nerve racking to say the least - I am happy to report that it is up and running. Now on to the next site...  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-27-2014 12:12 PM                     Isn't Christie's TMS app pretty much just a copy of the GDC app? They sure look similar. Mark  |  IP: Logged David Buckley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 525 From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2004 posted 08-27-2014 05:20 PM                        Steve asks: quote: Steve Guttag Why does "networking done right" use patch panels? It doesn't. There is a large distinction between "networking" and "wiring". An installation with patch panels and wall outlets is a "structured wiring system". It is designed in accordance with standards, and it is built that way because it follows the standards. Once constructed in accordance with the standard, it can then be tested to confirm it is in compliance with the standard, and then certified. You do not need to use a structured wiring system to do networking! You can just use a bunch of patch cables, plug them up as needed, and off you go, job done. What you can't (or, perhaps, shouldn't) do is to build something that looks like a structured wiring system, but isn't. Why have a structured wiring system at all? Before structured wiring existed, there were a multitude of standards for signal connections (e.g. Ethernet (thick, thin, AUI), Token Ring, RS232, IBM terminals (Coax and twinax), telephone, intercom, video, audio, GPIO), and cabling for each was typically installed as needed. The structured wiring system, based on RJ45 connectors and, originally, Cat5 cable swept away all that existed before it. And more than that, a premise was flood wired with cabling before anything else moved in. So the right cabling was in the right place (ie - everywhere!) at outset. Everything then used the structured wiring system. Does a booth need a structured wiring system? No. Does a booth benefit a structured wiring system? Maybe, maybe not. If only the amount of cabling that is absolutely needed today is installed, then there is pretty much guaranteed to be zero benefit. Over-install (ie - flood) so that something that pops up tomorrow cab be installed without needing to run new cable, then there may be a benefit. But the premises as a whole will benefit from having structured wiring installed, so in years to come it's easy to move a phone or add a LED sign.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-28-2014 09:25 AM                        quote: Mark Gulbrandsen Isn't Christie's TMS app pretty much just a copy of the GDC app? They sure look similar. Actually, I think Christie's TMS program is actually a clone of a different companies TMS program. I can't remember which one though. What is different is the pricing.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-28-2014 02:19 PM                     Doesn't Christie use Arts Alliance?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-28-2014 03:08 PM                     I would agree IF switches that had rear connections were commonly available. Unfortunately they aren't. That way I could bring the bundle for management and the bundle for Media directly into their perspective switches without having to do any nasty bends. But since all my TMS systems have been 100% trouble free I'll keep using patch bays. The patch bay I use obviously ISN'T a source of trouble. Mark  |  IP: Logged

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