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Sam D. Chavez
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I see the 19 inch rack mount spec. on top right side. I don't see anything about 23 inch except maybe the box. Wish it had a back view.

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Mike Babb
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Trinnov unveils Ovation2 cinema processor at CinemaCon
Paris, France – March 30th, 2019
Born in 2003, the Trinnov Optimizer technology dramatically improved acoustics calibration and optimization in studios. Introduced in 2013, the Ovation cinema sound processor changed the way technicians calibrate cinemas, providing tremendous benefits in terms of sound quality and ease of implementation.
Trinnov will be unveiling the Ovation2 at CinemaCon 2019 in booth 2419a, in partnership with Moving Image Technologies. An active demonstration will also take place in Milano #1 suite theater, in partnership with Christie®.
The Ovation2 retains all the significant benefits of its predecessor while introducing further enhancements in terms of calibration, integration and operation.
Tactile Screens
We redesigned the front panel around 2 touch screens, offering cinema technicians and integrators much better ergonomy and a more modern user experience.
Digital & Analog Outputs
The new Ovation 16/16 version adds up to 16 channels AES outputs mirroring its analog outputs. With this feature, you are now able to use an amplifier with digital inputs as well as analog inputs.
Step by step «Wizard»
A new step by step wizard is now available allowing for much broader configuration choices over an intuitive guided process. Connection to the Ovation has been improved with a web interface as well as the VNC client, no external software needed.
Re-designed power supply
At the heart of Ovation2, is a brand new power supply designed with the highest requirements in mind to offer better overall performance and stability in compliance with the world’s most demanding specs and certifications.
Technical Specifications
• Up to 16 channel digital AES inputs on DB-25 / RJ-45
• 8 channel analog balanced audio inputs on DB-25
• Up to 16 channel digital AES outputs on DB-25
• Up to 24 channel analog balanced audio outputs on DB-25 • 5 SPDIF inputs on 2x BNC, 2x RCA & optical TosLink
• Featuring Trinnov mono, bi, tri, or quad amp and crossover optimization • Automation by network or RS232
• Optional: Dolby Digital decoder, DTS Digital decoder, and upmixer
• Rack: 19’’ / width: 482.6 mm / length: 440.0 mm / height: 88.9mm
Meet our team at the show
In attendance at the show will be Arnaud Laborie (CEO), Arnaud Destinay (Sales Director), Michael Babb (International Sales Manager), Joseph Chen (Sales Manager Asia) and Benoit Munoz (Marketing Manager).
Meet us in booth 2419a and experience the Optimizer technology in the Christie Milano theater.

About Trinnov Audio
TRINNOV Audio develops innovative solutions for a wide range of media, entertainment and research audio applications. The company is renowned for its state-of-the-art loudspeaker/room Optimizer, including the exclusive remapping technology and research work in the area of 3D Audio.
The French manufacturer has always been committed to producing high-performance and reliable products for its demanding customers across the professional, high-end and commercial audio markets. Prestigious customers include UGC, CGV, Goodrich Quality Theatres, National Amusements, Emagine, IPIC and many others.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Awesome! Can't ask for much more in a processor than that...

Mark

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Steve Guttag
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CP500 touchscreen? Never had one. The QSC DCP line has had touch screens and they have not been problematic.

I'm interested in the Ovation2. I'm curious if it has an HDMI input/output and can do the HBR Dolby and DTS audio.

Sure some or even most players can do a degree of decoding for Blu-ray but one must also realize that those systems may not be installed by the technician but by someone sent to Walmart to get something for a party or whatnot. I want it to be as plug and play as in a home environment where the end-user doesn't have to configure things just to get sound and you can run into that with Dolby and their Dolby or LPCM only attitude. We didn't do the licensing deals with DTS (or any other brand) but it is a fact of life we have to deal with. In the consumer world, the solution is everything supports everything. For that HDMI (or Coax or Toslink) spigot, the same really needs to be true in cinema too.

This sure is looking to be a very informative and new product laden CinemaCon.

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Marcel Birgelen
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I agree with Steve and Brad that the lack of alternative content options on the CP950 as it now stands, is pretty underwhelming. In the current configuration, it cannot even function as a drop-in replacement for a CP750 in many cases.

Since the CP750 might soon become end-of-sale, the Ovation 2 looks like a more than worthy replacement, but the price of the device would need to match up too.

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Stephan Shelley
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Mike look forward to seeing you at Cinemacon. I have the Ovation 1 at the Grand Lake and it is indeed a versatile unit. For film stuff my venerable CP200 interfaces well with the 8 channel input. The programmable channel maping works well. One thing they hopefully added was automatic Blu-ray/DVD decode. Having to setup 3 or 4 different presets for a Blu-ray is a pain to use.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Steve Guttag
CP500 touchscreen? Never had one.
It had an LCD screen with numerous issues. Then all of a sudden they were NLA like so many Dolby things become. Since the Trinnov has other access options the LCD screen could even remain off to save it's back light.

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Jarod Reddig
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Wow Dolby the CP950 is, in a word, LAME.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Dolby has become lame in general. They are no longer the innovators they once were. They only buy up other companies and slap their name on the product. Been that way since Ray passed on...

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Mike Blakesley
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So Mark, should I trade-up for this new Ovation 2 unit? I'm still waiting on a quote from Jason, I think he forgot, to be honest. I need to jog his memory I guess.

I do fear that one day our good ol' Dolby will just decide not to turn-on. It's just about to celebrate its lucky 13th birthday.

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Jarod Reddig
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It appears to be so Mark. Is anything worth a damn left in this world lol. If I owned a cinema Id go QSYS, QSC speakers and amps too.

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Steve Guttag
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Jrod, what do you not like about the CP950?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Mike Blakesley
So Mark, should I trade-up for this new Ovation 2 unit?
I'd absolutely do it now. They have all the extra bell & whistles pretty well covered now. I know that Tony still wants to do it as well. But I think he is waiting till next year since he just bought three new GDC's. I will let Jason know you are interested as I talk to him frequently. He'll be at Movieworks soon installing new QSC speakers, so he may be able to do it after that.

Jarod... Definately take a look at the new Ovation processor and then QSC for the rest of the system chain.Dolby should have done years ago what Ovation has been doing the last five years. Dolby should go crawl under a rock far as I'm concerned.

https://www.trinnov.com/ovation/

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Dave Macaulay
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I think this essentially a companion processor to the DMA amps, with digital output to eliminate the analog stages. And allow Atmos upgrades, digital multichannel output is required for that.
A triamped 7.1 system will just need the 950 and one DMA. Monitoring Atmos is a problem, the built-in monitor may cover that. The 850 has a monitor output but configuring it requires the webGUI ... maybe this can be done from the 950 panel? It is useful to be able to monitor different channels or combinations when troubleshooting.
I think the CP750 will still be a good choice for a system with normal amps.
I can understand why Dolby doesn't do DTS but I think they should. The 750 probably can't but the 850 and 950 must have enough DSP power to handle DTS decoding, they just need to license it from their competitor. Do DTS processors do DD and Tru-HD?

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Jarod Reddig
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I dont like that fact that it lacks DTS as well as multi-channel inputs. And minimal HDMI. It seems a bit bare bones. Lack of DTS is not surprising tho but still.

Mark: Yes Ive had my eye on Trinnov for a few years now. They really seem to be on the cutting edge. Ive been considering the Altitude 16 for my home theater actually.

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