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Topic: Star Wars Attack of the Clones
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David Baum
Film Handler
Posts: 90
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-17-2002 07:05 PM
saw it on a "not recent" 3DLP (nothing like those PANASONIC 9200 or NEC 6000DC (dark chip) models, with 1000:1 contrast ratio ).poor blacks, often poor contrast, mirrors structure visible, moiré interaction with the perforations, too big a screen.
some scenes had very poor background details. I much prefer a smaller screen with latest 3DLP models or just a fresh 2.39 70mm PANAVISION  the movie itself: 10/10 for the best scenes , 5/10 for the others
7.5/10 average . it has much more the STAR WARS spirit than TPM some antholigical sequences for sure. Ewan plays very good Obiwan. more comments later maybe
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David Stambaugh
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From: Eugene, Oregon
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-17-2002 10:27 PM
05/17/2002, Cinemark 17, Springfield OR, #16, SR-D. Attendance about 200. Very good presentation except for no deep bass (see the TAP thread for presentation comments).Does seeing this movie with an appreciative audience and an involved floor staff make it more fun? We entered the auditorium about 15 mins. before showtime, which was about 2/3 full at that time. There were 3 Cinemark usher-type employees in there selling concessions, and more interestingly, entertaining the crowd. They were asking Star Wars and Spiderman trivia questions (working from prepared materials!) and awarding Spiderman posters to winners. They reserved certain very easy questions for the youngest kids in the audience. They did a good job and the crowd was having fun with it. The best part: THEY IMPLORED EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE TURN OFF THEIR CELL PHONES!! They did this no fewer than 3 times. They also joked with the audience about "You better go to the bathroom now because some Jedi Knight wannabe might whip out his light saber if you step on his toes in the middle of the show". The crowd seemed to appreciate all this. Right before showtime they announced that the movie was about to start, reminded everyone again about cell phones, and said "Enjoy the show!". There was applause from the crowd. Another note: This show included some very enthusiastic Star Wars fans. There was some whooping and interaction with the show (but not excessive). There was also some spontaneous applause at the end, and many people hung around during the end credits to talk about the movie. (People were talking about arcane Star Wars plot points, not about how it looked or sounded.) OK, about the movie. Within about 5 mins, I had decided that the presentation looked and sounded OK, so I was able to pay more attention to the movie itself. I got into the story and characters this time. Maybe my opinion was influenced by the enthusiastic crowd (probably something to do with The Force and the weak-minded). Or maybe I'm a closet LucasFilm Whore. I don't know. I just enjoyed it a whole lot more this time. I still cringed at some of the dialog. I noticed more "anomalies" like actors standing out unnaturally from their surroundings. I saw more video-related defects such as noise in dark scenes. But none of this seemed to interfere with my enjoyment of the movie this 2nd time around. Sue me if you want for saying something good about Lucas and his little space movie. All I can say is maybe more people would go to more movies if they were all as much fun as this show was. 
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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-18-2002 07:40 AM
Today's 35mm anamorphic prints have a 2.39:1 aspect ratio, with a 0.825 x 0.690 inch projectable image area using a 2X anamorphic lens. The camera may use a 2X (horizontal "squeeze")anamorphic lens (Panavision, Hawk, or others), or use a spherical lens with the anamorphic "squeeze" being done with an optical printer or digital intermediate (usually from a "Super 35" negative).65mm 5-perf origination like Todd-AO or Super Panavision 70 had a 2.20:1 aspect ratio for the 70mm prints. Ultra Panavision 70 used a 1.25X anamorphic lens to give an even wider 2.76:1 aspect ratio, as was used for pictures like "Raintree Country", "Ben Hur", and "Mutiny on the Bounty". 35mm reduction prints usually cropped the 65mm image to fit the 35mm "scope" aspect ratio. An excellent site that gives first-hand history of the various widescreen formats is Marty Hart's American Widescreen Museum:
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/lobby.htm ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Gracia L. Babbidge
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Posts: 709
From: Bowdoin, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-19-2002 12:47 AM
Well, I'll openly admit to being a fan of sci-fi in general; Star Wars in particular. ...Thus, Attack of the Clones would have had to really suck for me to dislike it.
However, I really enjoyed watching this film, and I will certainly see it a few more times (in spite of my general dislike of going back to where I work on my time off). Granted, I thought there were some parts of the movie that could have been better, but oh well, I'm not the person that made the movie....As far as crowd / presentation stuff - it was a screening, so it was nowhere near a full auditorium, and was after business hours. I watched this on film, and I do strive to do film right.
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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-19-2002 07:31 PM
Before I begin my review, let me point out that YES DAMMIT I SAW ALL THE SAME CRAP YOU ALL SAW TOO!!!!I saw all the digital artifacts, I saw the horrible lack of acting talent, I saw the incredible lack of direction, the pixels, the fact that the story moved around like General Hospital in Space. So with that in mind.. The fight scene with Yoda is only comical if you wanted it to be!!! That was the best scene in the picture. Hate it all you want, but watch the numbers build. If you want to call 100 million people, myself included, idiots, then let me do you the favor. We are all blissfully idioticly entranced for two and a half hours and just sat back and had some fun. We all saw the problems, we all did. Even a retarted dog could see the problems. Anyone who thinks they are smarter than the rest of us because they think they are the only ones who saw the problems, get real. Everyone in my circle all complained as much as anyone else about the problems... BUT... they came to enjoy themselves. Thats it. Sometimes you just have to let go of your critical self and just have some damn fun, which is what this movie was. It was just pure candy fun. No real story, no real plot, no acting worth crap, just fun. You remember rollercoasters right? You wait in line, you scream for a minute, you get off, and you do it again. But you have fun. This film is a rollercoaster plain and simple. I give it a thumb up, with my other one waiting for my second screening. Dave
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Will Morrow
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Posts: 91
From: Mt. Pleasant, MI, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-19-2002 07:47 PM
Hmm Ep2 compaired to a roller coaster...Coaster has ups and downs...
Hayden's pitch goes up and down, all the times he whines You have to stay seated in a coaster...
You better stay seated or some Lightsaber toting geek will bop you with his glowing stick of plastic There is always one great looking view of some hot chics cleavage on a coaster...
Thanks Padme! Love the fire place scene atire Unfortunatly Ep2 was lacking the one true thing that a great coaster ride has... It's over in a matter of minutes. :-)
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Tom Fermanian
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 101
From: Sainte Adele, Quebec, Canada
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 05-19-2002 08:26 PM
Most comments from paying patrons, (not only SW fans)
Slow until the last 30 Minutes, Yoda gets laughs (from walking with that cane and suddenly becoming "Superman"), Love scenes are hilarious, slow & tedious, moviegoers and I don't think Georgie could have chosen a worst actor than Hayden Christensen PERIOD, Puppets in the older series gave the former more charm, but Digital effects are superior even if picture looks 2 dimensional.Non- Star wars fans not impressed, Star wars aficionados find it a little better than EP 1. ------------------
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Aldo Baez
Master Film Handler
Posts: 266
From: USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 05-20-2002 03:31 AM
You guys are looking for good acting in Star Wars movies, but you're not gonna find it. Skywalker was a whiny, bad acting brat in ep4 (he got better as it went along in my opinion), there was also the bad one liners in the first three as well, and many other things you can find in the first three that people found wrong in this one. For me Star Wars is the story (and effects), the tale of the rise and fall of the Empire, and the tragedies that happened. Anyone could have been Amidala, Anakin, Mace Windu and it wouldn't have mattered because it's about the story. If you go to various forums they're not talking about the bad acting but who is Sifo-dious (sp?), why did he order the clones, is Sifo Palpatine? What happens to Dooku? Why did he hire Jango to kill Amidala? The story is the thing and I, for one, had a great great time seeing it unfold with 300 other fans and I certainly cannot wait for the next one.
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David Baum
Film Handler
Posts: 90
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-20-2002 04:53 PM
lol! stil many people who don't get it that Sidious=Palpatin senator=Emperor Palpatine SPOILERS!!!!!!! he arranged EVERYTHING (up to the sandmen kidnapping Anakin's mother), up to gathering most of the jedis so a maximum would get killed. I found McGregor to REALLY be Obiwan and his police enquiry was very interesting. Awesome sequence with Junga Fett ( and Junga's asking Bobba to close that door was really "impressive" ). watch for Bobba in EP III.
I still wonder why Bobba has so much anger against Han Solo btw: can't be just for the bounty offered... Yoda arriving with the clone troopers is awesome,so is the battle: this is WAY above TPM ! Zam the assassin scene also very impressive. I like the shot where she's standing by the commercial and sees Obiwan arriving. cool. far from perfect movie but very enjoyable.I do hope EP III will bring us back to the "feel" and "look" of the trilogy (4-6)...
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