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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 07-19-2007 09:44 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Bobby Henderson
Tron even seems to have had that problem to a certain degree.
Bobby,

You're right about that! The only people that understood TRON at all back when it was released were IBM computer geeks. Today even the old farts understand at least some of it because of "digital exposure" over the years.

Mark

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Mike Blakesley
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Impressive special effects. The movie has a sense of humor, so that's good. It reminds me of "Armageddon" that way.

What's with all the computers beeping and squeaking and squawking all the time. That sounds so dumb...."Yahoo" appears on the screen with a bunch of beeps and squeals. Uh, you'd think that would be very annoying for the user.

I haven't seen the whole movie yet so I won't comment further until I do, but those two are my first impressions.

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Joe Redifer
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I finally saw this movie about 10 minutes ago or so. First off I must admit that I was a huge Transformers fan as a child. I loved the cartoon as well as the cartoon movie. You never saw good guy characters die in cartoon movies until Transformers came along. This Michael Bay movie is like a series reboot, only the reboot aspect is not done very well. You basically need to be a Transformers fan to fully grasp what is going on. The Decepticon symbol is never shown and some character names are given only once and we're expected to remember them. Anyone who isn't a Transformers fan would probably think "WTF?" or just like it for the action. This movie kicked ass and sucked ass at the same time. There's no denying that the story was pure crap, especially the human side of the story. But there is lots of fairly cool action, but due to the way the Transformers look, it can get confusing. The CGI was awesome, but that's because everything was metal.

I am displeased with the way the robots themselves looked. They looked waaay fucked up. You could see all of their gears and all of that and as a result it was sometimes hard to make out what was their arms and legs, etc. They looked more like insects than anything. Often it was hard to tell the difference between any two Transformers. They almost all looked the same. Shitty design. The cartoons looked much more practical and logistical from a design standpoint. Fucking Michael Bay and his "I must ruin everything I survey" policy. Not only that, but some of the names were screwed up. Devastator was a tank and Bonecrusher was some sort of roving vehicle thingy. In the cartoon (and toy) Bonecrusher is a bulldozer who transforms into a robot and along with 5 other construction vehicles that also transform into their own individual robots merge together into a giant super robot called Devastator. There is no way Devastator could be running around on his own independently of Bonecrusher (who is actually Devastator's left arm). The voices were also mastered poorly with too much filtering. They also lowered the pitch on Peter Cullen's (Optimus Prime) voice slightly for some unknown reason. And why the fuck does Optimus Prime have a mouth? He looks like a retard flapping that thing. It's on the bottom of his fucking chin for Christ's sake!

Check out this Optimus Prime comparison I cooked up JUST FOR YOU:
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As you can see, the one on the left looks he was designed by someone who has a double dose of Down Syndrome™, Bird Flu and Hepatitis A and C.

Anyway I enjoyed the movie due to nostalgic value even though the cartoon has a far better premise/storyline. The sound was really good... for a Michael Bay movie. Music was still a little too bombastic for my tastes, though. I hope Woody Allen directs the sequel.

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Patrick de Groot
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Completely agree about the design. Way too complicated just to make it look like high tech or something... Also the cube thing was just stupid. The attack on the military base was impressive.
For the sequel you are stuck with how things are done now. A pitty.

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Joseph L. Kleiman
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Viewed at AMC LOEWS METREON IMAX
15/70 DMR Version
Monday, 11/05 7:05 pm
10 people in auditorium

Film: 3 out of 5
DMR Conversion: 4 out of 5
Sound: 5 out of 5
Annoying teenagers: NONE!

My thoughts on the film:

1. That annoying boombox thing was just annoying. Was it supposed to be a Decepticon version of a Gremlin?

2. Why did all things the cube bring to life become evil?

3. How come the Decepticons were all jagged and pointy and the Autobots looked like they came straight of a General Motors assembly line in Canada?

4. Bumblebee is a Volkswagon bug not a Camero! Thank you Michael Bay for slapping my childhood on its ass. The Camero slapping the Bug only put the icing on your cake, didn’t it?

5. JAZZ!!!!!! You killed off Jazz and he didn’t get a chance to be cool!!!!!

6. I kept thinking to myself “that girl’s got to be over 16.”

7. Hugo Weaving was the voice of Megatron, Queen of the Decepticons?

8. To reiterate Joe Redifer: "In the cartoon (and toy) Bonecrusher is a bulldozer who transforms into a robot and along with 5 other construction vehicles that also transform into their own individual robots and merge together into a giant super robot called Devastator. There is no way Devastator could be running around on his own independently of Bonecrusher (who is actually Devastator's left arm)."

9. Barton Fink did not need to act like a retard. He’s better than that. He could have and should have just played pure evil.

10. Why did the Autobots always look like they were making love to buildings?

11. The cool thing about the size and resolution of the IMAX image is that you can see things like the buggers up Shia LaBouf’s nose.

12. Where the fuck was Bruce Willis? The music kept telling me that Bruce and Ben were on their way to save the planet.

13. Tyrese got second billing? All he did was yell at the guy who got fifth billing and more screen time.

14. John Turturo vs. Brent Spiner - Who’s the better whackjob fooling with alien technology?

15. I want to buy a GM car now.

16. Why was the President quarantined to his bed on Air Force One?

17. Why wasn’t Air Force One a Transformer? That would have been cool!

18. She’s got to be over 16.

19. Michael Bay destroyed a bunch of BMW’s. I was appalled.

20. One word – A N T H O N Y !!!! Redeemed the whole film single handedly.

21. Yet more proof that Bernie Mac is not funny in the movies.

22. The film was made in Detroit. Go figure.

23. I liked it alot and had Transformer dreams all night.

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Joseph L. Kleiman
4. Bumblebee is a Volkswagon bug not a Camero! Thank you Michael Bay for slapping my childhood on its ass. The Camero slapping the Bug only put the icing on your cake, didn’t it?
My guess is he had little, if any, control over the deals that went into what products would be placed in the movie.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Joe Redifer
why the fuck does Optimus Prime have a mouth?
Michael Bay probably saw "Rosie" on the Jetsons and figured that a real robot needs a mouth.

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Joe Redifer
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LOL. He does kind of look like Rosie, doesn't he?

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Joseph L. Kleiman
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quote: Chris Slycord
My guess is he had little, if any, control over the deals that went into what products would be placed in the movie.

From The Hollywood Reporter via MichaelBay.com:

Often roles this big require brands to spend millions of dollars in integration fees in addition to millions in TV ads and other cross-promotional activity, but GM only had to supply two vehicles for each brand starring in the movie, though it did spend millions in promotions. It also built two Camaros especially for the film since the vehicle is not for sale yet and is based on a concept car Bay saw last year at an auto show. GM provided dozens of other vehicles for background use in the movie.

"Michael saw the new Camaro at the 2006 auto show and immediately fell in love with it and wanted it for Bumblebee," Bernacchi said.

Bay's long-standing relationship with GM also led to the car manufacturer's role in the movie's spotlight. GM has supplied vehicles for several of Bay's movies, including about 80 for "Bad Boys II," and Bay directed spots for Chevy earlier in his career.

Full page here

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Mike Sellars
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quote: Joseph L. Kleiman
...She’s got to be over 16.
No dude, she's 18... that first day was her birthday... that's what I choose to believe, cause she was way too hot not to be legal!

[sex]

Mike

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Joe Redifer
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Both of the "teens" are at least in their early twenties. They don't look like teenagers at all, just assholes.

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Matt Barth
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I'd also heard Volkswagen didn't want to be associated with such a violent movie, go figure.

I was upset watching the DVD with commentary because I expected Bay to make some mention that he'd changed Brawl's name (he's the tank that was incorrectly named Devastator as noted before). The story that went around was the name was going to be changed back to Brawl but the subtitle group didn't get the memo and Bay liked it better anyway. That pissed off the nerd inside me, it didn't help that Bay openly admits he knows jack-crap about Transformers.

The fact the AllSpark only made evil bots was weird to me too.

---Matt

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Marc Jensen
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Those All Spark creations late in the film have been explained by one of the writers. Their idea was that those robots would be primal and soulless creations, without any sense of right or wrong. They just came to 'life' and did what they were equipped to do: Attack.

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Jake Lafree
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made in Detroit eh? wow go figure indeed

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Kurt Zupin
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Only one thing was shot in Detroit. Bay used the old Detroit Rail Station. Its the building Sam is running to with the cube at the end.

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