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Melanie Loggins
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Okay, Mike, you got me there. Our counter is more than twice that. But I still don't want to give any of it up!

The main issue is still the price difference. Our prices are already about half what the chains charge and if I have to pay more for the container, I'm going to have to raise the price, even if just by a quarter. Which I don't want to do.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote:
Our counter is more than twice that. But I still don't want to give any of it up!
...you might have to... be creative.

I wouldn't raise the price by a quarter since your prices are cheaper than the larger competition.

You start shooting prices up, it could show signs of desperation that can scare customers off.

Give the customers (your guests) a break - make them feel like a winner..for if you do, they'll pass that info onto others and your biz will gradually increase due to a wonderful atmosphere that will grow, where right now, you're just starting out in getting your feet wet.

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Mike Blakesley
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Melanie....look at it this way: If you raise your prices by a quarter, you'll still be WAY LESS than what the chains charge, and you will be using containers that are much better than the bags the chains use, look better, are amazingly easier and faster to fill and carry, don't leak, and most importantly, they project more value to the customer. Your customers will love that it takes your counterperson a fourth of the time (or less) to fill a popcorn order.

You wouldn't believe the compliments we get on our tubs. And people always have a story about "those stupid bags Carmike uses" to go with the compliment.

The other thing they're good for, they make great little storage bins for stuff. I even used one for a lampshade in one of our store rooms -- it needed a shade to stop the light from getting out into the auditorium when the door was open, and the 85oz tub did the trick.

The one and only bad thing about the tubs is the amount of space they take to store. But the counter space shouldn't be too big a challenge: You can put a stack of each size, with 25 to 50 in each stack, and only use a foot or so of counter space, depending on the depth of your counter and how many sizes you have. (We use 24, 46, 85 and 130 ounce.)

I'll bet that if you switch, you'll never look back. But the good thing is, if you DO decide to switch back for whatever reason, you're out nothing except the cost of a couple of boxes of the tubs.

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Mike Frese
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Tubs!

We use the plastic souvenir tubs that Cinema Scene makes with the movies on them being promoted. The Twilight ones sell phenomenally well as you would imagine. We also offer customers a nice refill price on later visits. So we have zero trash concern. We only sell tubs in the 170 oz size and do not have a bag that size. The refill price is the same as our 130 oz bag.

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Cassandra Palko
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Tubs!

Bags are loud in the auditorium. I went to a "bag" theatre and couldn't help but hear all the people around me making noise with their popcorn bags. It upset me so much that I wrote my corporate office and told them that we should never go to bags because it degrades the guest experience.

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Edward Havens
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Tubs are the only way to go.

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Scott Norwood
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What Mike said. I hate bags.

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Jen Pelto
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Any smaller theaters out there know where to buy cost-efficient tubs? I went the tub route years ago when we first opened and it was steep to buy 500 or less at a time.

We switched to a new formula of 100% organic popcorn (it is delicious -- we have never received so many compliments. Time to enter Screentrade's annual popcorn competition!). We keep our prices much lower than the megaplex and we don't really want to raise our prices much more than we had to when we made the switch to organic. An upcharge for a nice-sized tub will be totally acceptable for our patrons.

Anyone know of any good places to buy those tubs?

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Mike Blakesley
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We have always gotten our tubs from the same place we get our concession supplies. Currently, Mountain States Concessions in Salt Lake City. They offer a free-shipping deal if you buy 35 cases or more. (Of anything, not just tubs.)

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Sam Graham
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quote: Rachel Carter
We have bags for our Small, Medium, Large, and X-Large but also have the choice of the tub for our X-large. The X-Large tubs fly off the counters while the X-Large bags just sit on the counters getting dusty I can't wait for the day that we sell out all the X-large bags so we can just get rid of them completly! It probably helps that we have pictures on the tubs from various kids movies, they do great at the matinees!
That makes me wonder...if tubs in the largest size with bags in the smaller sizes would actually help up-sell the product.

This would be an especially interesting experiment in self-serve concession stands.

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Melanie Loggins
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Jen, that's my question! Now that I think I've committed to switching, I'm a little overwhelmed at the cost of starting over. And, you know, there are four to choose from. Are the more expensive ones noticeably better than the cheaper ones? And shipping adds another 8 cents to the cost.... (I can't afford to buy 35 cases of anything at one time!)

So, if you figure something out, let me know.

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Mike Blakesley
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We get all of our concession supplies (except Pepsi cups and lids) from the same place so its pretty easy to hit the 35 target. But, there has to be a distributor fairly close to you I'd think.

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Edward Havens
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Melanie, who are you using now for concessions supplies?

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Melanie Loggins
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Edward, we buy popcorn, oil and salt from Jolly Time, which is 45 minutes from me. (It's great to live in corn country!) Soda and cups come from our Coke distributor. And bags, so far, have come from Sam's Club. (Best price, free delivery.) We're one screen and have 4-6 shows a week, so I just don't need that much at any given time. I have the room to store just about anything, but not the money to buy huge quantities of anything at once.

Jolly Time doesn't carry tubs, and a distributor in Omaha, who supplies a theatre between us and him, is pretty expensive and won't cut me any deals on delivery. Twice so far I've just begged someone who was already going to be in Omaha to get something for me if I needed it. I think I'm just going to have to take a deep breath and either pay for the delivery, or drive 3 hours each way to Snappy and pick them up.

But I'm still not sure which ones to get; I'd be pretty peeved if I spent a grand on new tubs - when I still have hundreds of bags in the basement - just to find out they leak, too.

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Frank Cox
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I have always used tubs made by International Paper and I don't think I have ever had one leak.

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