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Andy Muirhead
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 - posted 08-23-2001 06:22 PM      Profile for Andy Muirhead   Email Andy Muirhead   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maybe she went to a cinema that used towers?

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Michael Gonzalez
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Well... If the movie is in the very beginning (like the first ten minutes or so) than it is possiable to cut the film wind it back into the center ring and drop that back into the center of the platter. So it is like rewinding. Also you can pull the ring out in such a way that you can "Fast Forward" through the policies and most of the previews by starting the movie at the attached preview so they wont have to see everything a second time.

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Christopher M. Belch
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 - posted 08-23-2001 09:27 PM      Profile for Christopher M. Belch   Author's Homepage   Email Christopher M. Belch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry steve, but they will always be "slushies," regardless of what they actually are (besides, i think slushie is the generic name, icee is the brand name).

Could someone please explain to some of the operations staff that there is no rewind button on the projector. I have actually heard that from staff before, even from a few supervisors (now i realize that the supervisors are not technical wizards, but cmon, you should at least know this much).

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Jerry Chase
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The rewind button is located just below the film stretcher assembly on a Century.

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Joshua Voorhies
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FYI- the customer who said that another theatre rewound the film for her was talking about a competing megaplex. We're talking platters here.
I absolutely dread the time I spend with customers waiting for the passes to come down the tubes from the cash office. I swear they stand there and think-up new things to bitch just to kill time.
Actually, that's not true. There are a few who are happy just to have their voice heard and compensated for their inconvenience.
I don't get many of those.

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Joseph Pandolfi
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ANOTHER RULE NO ONE THOUGHT OF: If a childrens movie like Shrek is playing at 10:30 12:30 and 2:30 and a R rated movie is playing in the same house the remaining times. Don't pile 12 kids in the SUV and bring them down here at 12:29 in the morning. You will be sent home.

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Andy Muirhead
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It is in-fact possible and easy to "rewind" a show on platters, the only problem being the fact that it would require at least two splices and would take about 5-10mins to carry out. It's much easier to deny to people that it's not possible because it would add to downtime, of course if managers/owners were to staff the projection side with more than the bare minimum, then one team could work on the original problem with the other doing this procedure.

I am utterly sick of the way the projection depts are the first ones to suffer due to cutbacks. Where the fuck would they be without us? A glorified sweet shop!

Sorry rant over!

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Steve Scott
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Chris:
I guess that they're all made up of the same matter. I don't get on people for calling Coke products Pepsi (in fact, I don't even tell them we don't sell pepsi ) I'm just getting sick of working on the floor sometimes. There's no drinks sold in the booth.

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Richard C. Wolfe
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Back in the spring when I was playing Billy Elliot, during the Saturday matinee the motor on the projector suddenly slowed down and then stopped. Everyone was treated with the rare experience of watching a single frame melt before their very eyes. I went downstairs and announced that it would be a few minutes until we would be up and running again, and was immediately asked by a patron if we would rewind the film so they wouldn't miss that scene. It was an important scene, I must admit. My answer was: "Of course we will, as you deserve nothing less for your patience during this time." I then went up stairs and removed the reel from the projector, put it on the rewinder, cut out the melted frame, and rewound it to about a minute prior to where the failure had occurred. I then put the reel on the other projector and restarted the show. Everyone was happy. I'm happy to say that projection failures are far and few here... several times a year possibly. Thanks to having two projectors with 6000 foot reels and automatic changeovers, I have NEVER during the past thirty one years EVER, not even once, had to give a refund or pass for a breakdown. This is the number one reason that there will never be a platter system in my theatre. Do we have breakdowns? Yes, of course we do, but on those rare occasions we get back on the screen in two or three minutes at the most.


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Jesse Skeen
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I can re-start shows that have run into their first half-hour without doing any cutting- I ended up being in a booth during both of California's biggest power outages of the past 5 years, both times the power being out long enough to cancel the shows in progress. During the time the power was out I was able to get the film from the take-up platter back into the middle and ready to start from the beginning for the next show to start when the power finally came back on. If it's more than halfway through the film it's better to just unthread it and "fast-forward" the remainder to the end. I've been able to stop a show during the 3rd or so reel and re-start it from the beginning of that reel, so nothing is missed and only some footage gets played twice, though I've never done that in front of an audience (yet)! (It involves winding the reel-in-progress to the end, taking it off on a reel then putting it back in the center- I tried this once just to see if it could work.)

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Bob Ferreira
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I think there should be a no-littering rule in movie theatres. It is a public area (i know owned privately, but the PUBLIC is there) and if you throw stuff outside in the public you get a fine. Now, i don't mean people should be fined for dropping things on the floor, but i have seen people deliberately throw food on the floor, and have even had customers comment on how it was "their (theatre staff) to clean the theatres. Yeah, that may be in the description, but I'll be damned if people think that we are there to pick up after them. I think we are there to provide good solid entertainment for people and to make sure they have a good time, not clean up after them. So, no throwing crap on the floors and dumping your Hawaiian Punch® on the seats: Rule 16a

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Steve Scott
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On that subject:

Rule 16b: If you get a refill on whatever (if the theater provides refills) either eat/drink most of it or take it home with you, don't leave it in the chair, aisle, floor, etc.

I've picked up bags & cups that were damn near completely full. I'd have to assume that with the high number of refills we get at the stand, and based on the fact that people usually eat a good deal of food while waiting for the film to start (because they paid for it in the first place & probably wouldn't leave it sit on the floor thru the show), that customers are really wasting this stuff. Our large bags are 170 oz., and when people eat a little off of the top after a refill, they're wasting the supplies that could have gone to another paying customer!

Hence, rule 16c: If you're not going to eat it all, don't ask for all of it, and don't throw the rest on the floor!

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Richard C. Wolfe
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Bob, you really hit a sour note on that one. I couldn't agree with you more. I've been in this business over thirty five years now, and have never been able to get a satisfactory answer on how this leaving the trash on the floor busines got started, and why it's been accepted all these years. From all the inquires that I made even back in the sixties with the oldtimers that were still around then from the early days of the biz, it became apparent that it has been part of the business since its inception. Prior to the late thirties or early forties, most theatres didn't have refreshment stands, but some did sell peanuts or popcorn and chocolate bars from a vendor who went up and down the asiles just before the show. When the early nickleodeon theatres first appeared in large numbers between 1908-10 it didn't take aspiring entrepreneurs long to realize that the crowds entering those early theatres were ripe for picking as customers for various refreshments and they quickly either set up a portable stand outside the theatre, or rented a storefront nextdoor to sell various concessions to those moviegoers. As long as theatre owners were making good money from selling movie tickets they didn't seem to be interested in getting involved in concession sales, but during the depression when every extra penny counted, some exhibitors began to offer various concessions as a means of extra income. The small town and neighborhood houses were the first to offer the goodies. The large movie palaces held out longer then most as they were too proud to "stoop" that low to sell concessions. However, regardless of where the concessions came from, it seemed that it was always accepted as part of doing business to put up with the trash left behind. Theatres have for as long as I can remember run trailers asking people to please use the trash cans, but that has never been very effective. Back in the sixties after the TV scare, when new theatres began to be built again, it was a policy at many to prohibit drinks and ice cream to be taken into the auditoriums to prevent sticky floors, and limit the trash left behind. That was never popular with the patrons and died out by the early seventies for the most part.

So how do we change it now? Good question. I don't have the answer, but I've have often wondered what would happen if we (theatre operators and or employees) went into, lets say, a doctors office and ate something in the waiting room, and left the trash on the floor.

I'd like to hear suggestions on how we can get people to pick up after themselves.

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Bob Maar
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Richard, It will not be easy to get the people to change their ways. However, I do think that a few things have to happen to help the patron do the right thing. You may have to enlist the participation of NATO to help.

1. Develop a 30 second or 60 second trailer done with humor showing people watching a movie up to their elbows in trash. Then show that same audience walking out and throwing the trash into:

2. Receptacles provided by management. There could be an usher standing by the receptacle thanking the patrons and handing the people using the receptacle, a discount on their next on concessions on their next visit.

3. You may want to make a personal appeal to the audience to carry the trash out and receive the coupon.

Good Evening ladies and Gentleman,

My name is Joe Redifer and I would like to welcome you to tonight's show. The film will begin in just a moment, I want to let you know we now have receptacles outside the entrance (or by the exit doors ) for the popcorn boxes and drink cups. All persons disposing of their trash at the receptacles will receive a coupon for a discount on your next visit.

Thank you and enjoy the show. You never know until you try.


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Randy Loy
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Bob,

As far as the humorous anti-littering trailer goes, it seems to me that the (fabulous) Byrd Theatre in Richmond, Virginia, did a nice in-house trailer several years ago that was exactly for that purpose.
As I recall it shows people screaming and running out of that theatre, sort of in a campy 1950's "The Blob" style, and then the camera takes the viewers inside to see what the people were running away from. It's TRASH, of course. It's been several years since I've been to the Byrd but maybe our friend Bill Enos can tell us whether my memory serves me correctly or whether I've gone off the deep end.

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