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Author Topic: Movietunes Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-17-2003 03:22 AM                        They've hit a new low...the latest MovieTunes disk includes a REMAKE of the song "Convoy," by Mannheim Steamroller "featuring" the original redneck who performed it in 1974, C. W. McCall. (Trivia: The original record was produced by Mannheim mastermind Chip Davis. Then he got better taste.) Exactly why was it necessary to foist this upon, not only the theatre audiences, but any humans in general?  |  IP: Logged Daniel Fuentz Expert Film Handler Posts: 230 From: Fresno, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2003 posted 06-17-2003 03:40 AM                     I just heard this tonight! There was a lot of chatter going on in the theater, so I wasn't sure I was hearing what I thought I was hearing. That song would be near the top of my list of "Songs I never thought would be remade in any form". I was every bit as shocked hearing this as I was when I heard the urban remake of Gordon Lightfoot's "If You Could Read My Mind", or the Spanish language remake of the Pretenders' "Back On The Chain Gang".  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 06-17-2003 09:56 AM                     A few years ago, Century Theatres had their own radio network. Between each song an over excited male announcer would come on and say "THIS - IS - CENTURY RADIO!" I'm not sure if they still have this or not.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 08-07-2003 11:58 AM                     More MovieTunes laziness: In the AMC version Kris Erik Stevens reads a blurb about "AMC Theatres gift certificates". AMC no longer issues gift certificates -- they were replaced with the AMC Entertainment Card last year. You would think the MovieTunes staff should have known better since AMC owns the company that produces MovieTunes.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-07-2003 12:18 PM                        If you listen carefully, you can tell that much of the Stevens blather on MovieTunes (like "Wouldn't a hot popcorn taste great right now?") is pre-recorded and mixed in with more current comments. So the AMC Gift Certificate thing is probably just old.  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-07-2003 02:58 PM                        Not long ago I was at a Regal theatre. I got to the theatre a little early and listened to the movie tunes music and heard them say to go to www.carmikecinemas.com ! They'd sent a Carmike version to that Regal theatre, and they were playing it!!!! This struck me as extremely funny.  |  IP: Logged Steve Anderson Expert Film Handler Posts: 168 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-07-2003 04:26 PM                        The drive-in that I do a website for was visited by two people representing BMI and asked the owner to not play the FM radio prior to the movie, or for $300 a year he could get a license from them. He politely told them to themselves and turned off the radio. Won't be hearing movietunes either.  |  IP: Logged Barry Floyd Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1079 From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-07-2003 04:45 PM                        Larry told about that Steve.. I think I'd just pay the $300.00 and have SOMETHING playing before showtime. We're actually gonna try Drive-In Radio at our theatre, but probably not until next spring.  |  IP: Logged Steve Anderson Expert Film Handler Posts: 168 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-07-2003 04:58 PM                        I like " Drive -In radio " I wiuld love to hear a demo. Tried talking larry into it....but I don't know.  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 08-07-2003 11:50 PM                        I don't know if there are specific music licensing rules for theaters. There are for restaurants and retailers: HR789, the Fairness in Music Licensing Act (1998), states that for retailers, if the store is less than 2000 square feet or greater than 2000 sq ft but has less than 7 speakers with less than 4 in the same room and less than 5 AV devices with 1 in the same room and (I think) a display of less than 56", then no licensing is necessary. For restaurants, same rules, but it applies to places with less than 3750 square feet.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-08-2003 08:46 AM                        Here are some links regarding the US law regulating public use of copyrighted works: http://www.ascap.com/playback/1998/october/legislative.html http://www.ustr.gov/enforcement/2001-08-21-1sub.pdf http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property/MP3/biederman.html http://elr.lls.edu/issues/v22-issue1/binder.pdf http://www.idea.piercelaw.edu/articles/40/40_1/1.McCluggage.pdf http://www.law.upenn.edu/law619/f2001/week08/pageprints/copyright1_introduction.pdf http://quello.msu.edu/Lectures/Yu041603.pdf  |  IP: Logged Barry Floyd Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1079 From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-08-2003 08:55 AM                        My parents own a campground here in Lebanon, and my mom sits in the camp store all day and reads while listening to the radio. An ASCAP rep came in and told them the radio has to go, or be subject to licensing fees. Since the radio also comes out in speakers overhead in the store and from a speaker on a pole out by the pool, they considered it "public rebroadcasting". My step-father basically did what Steve said the drive-in owner did and told the guy to go himself. Mom just watches TV now. I've got a demo disc from Drive-In Radio, actually it's a very well produced set of music. It's alot like Movie Tunes, but specifically marketed to drive-ins with a drive-in theme. Drive IN Radio  |  IP: Logged Mike Williams Master Film Handler Posts: 255 From: Knoxville, TN Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-08-2003 12:07 PM                     Another option is XM Radio.. they actually offer a commercial version that is not that expensive. XM Radio Commerical Service  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 08-08-2003 08:08 PM                     What the heck is Century Theatres using lately? The past few times I've gone to their theaters they seem to be playing some sort of royalty-free music, generic keyboard tunes with the audio of their policy trailer thrown in a few times. It's not obnoxious, but I would've picked some budget-label classical music instead. My old theater used the generic Movietunes discs, but often fot the ones made for Carmike or AMC instead. They usually ended up getting replacement discs as soon as someone other than me caught the mistake.  |  IP: Logged Mike Williams Master Film Handler Posts: 255 From: Knoxville, TN Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-09-2003 09:26 AM                     Cobb (in it's pre-Regal days) played the royalty free music at the theater I worked at. It came on 3 or 4 CD's and played in a 5 disc changer. The only time we changed or added a CD was in December for the holidays. (Where we had a holiday themed Royalty free CD). Then we put the "year round" CDs back in. Sometimes, to "mix it up" a little, we would hit shuffle on the CD changer so they all wouldn't be playing in the same order all of the time. The music was also piped into the lobby for all to hear. I hate to admit it, but in that case we were all dying for something like Movietunes. At least some of the music changed once a month!  |  IP: Logged

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