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Thomas Procyk
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posted 05-05-2004 01:07 PM

Claude -- That may not be a bad idea. I saw it when it came to our school, with a crowd of about 1500. During some of the more brutal scenes, it's very uncomfortable sitting among that many people. Not because it's "Christ" getting beaten, but it's even a bit too gorey for Horror status. I'll admit, I had to look away when I started to see bits of flesh fly about. [Frown]

Jeremy -- Yes. It took a little longer than a half hour.

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Kamakshipalya Dhananjay
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posted 05-11-2004 01:50 AM

Well, just four days into release in India, PASSION is already a washout everywhere here.

Stupid distributors are all we have here in India. Releasing a film 10 weeks after the US debut is just as good as not releasing the film at all. And to complicate this rather disastrous performance, the distributor for PASSION chose to import the prints from abroad (than strike locally in which case costs could have been 40% lower). So, another reminder to Hollywood that their strategy in INDIA sucks, most of the time.

There will only be two simultaneous Hollywood releases in India this summer. One is DAY AFTER TOMORROW and the other is HARRY POTTER 3.

And I believe that the Hollywood executives here in INDIA are completely brainless simply because they believe it makes any sense to not release a big Hollywood film simultaneously with the US. If these executives are not at fault and it is instead their superiors sitting elsewhere, say Hongkong, London or Los Angeles, that are at fault, then I cannot but help say that such HOLLYWOOD decision makers look like they are not a shade better than any damning bureaucrat in a sub-saharan country.

BTW, I just heard this complaint from a devoted catholic couple who had been out to catch PASSION at a newly opened theatre in this city. The movie started an hour later than scheduled. The theatre had a occupancy of less than 10% for that show. As usual, a hour into the film, interval arrived. For a full 10 minutes, the audience were invaded with loud music (intermission audio, the norm across the Country) from artists such as Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, MLTR and then, the show resumed. This couple found themselves completely disoriented a few minutes into the resumption. They thought of leaving the theatre just then, but held on. They sat for the rest of the film and the lights were turned on later and it was time to leave...

This couple gets up and try to look at other souls in that auditorium. To their complete surprise, they see that everybody else had already left before the ending, probably soon after the interval.

Intervals are fun.

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Bill Gabel
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posted 05-11-2004 06:38 PM

The DVD release date is August 31, with a retail price of $29.98 for DVD and $24.98 for VHS.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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posted 05-11-2004 08:11 PM

Regarding this DVD:

The The Digital Bits is reporting:

quote:
20th Century Fox has revealed that they'll be releasing Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ on DVD on 8/31 (SRP $29.98). There will be few (if any) extras, so that the maximum video bit rate can be achieved for the film presentation. The disc will include both anamorphic widescreen and full frame versions, as well as audio in the original Aramaic/Latin in both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 surround (with English and Spanish subs). Sources are telling us that a more elaborate special edition release is in the works, for a possible Easter 2005 release.

Video Store magazine reported that "customized church sleeves" will be available for bulk orders from churches.

Further discussion of the DVD should probably move over to the Afterlife. (I can think of no better title to discuss in a thread called the Afterlife.)

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Thomas Procyk
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posted 05-12-2004 10:44 AM

They probably didn't want to strike prints for Passion in India because of the horrible lab work that almost always comes out of there. The negative splices are bad enough, we don't need safelight fogging and sound dropouts, too. With the amount of safelight fog I've seen on Bollywood prints, you'd think they were playing flashlight tag in the labs!!

So no special features on the DVD to "preserve the bitrate" but they're including a complete second showing of the film for the fullscreeners. Just release a seperate disc!! [Mad]

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Carl Martin
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posted 05-13-2004 02:37 AM

is there really a completely separate set of data for each version, or can the 2 versions share what they have in common (a lot)?

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 05-14-2004 08:20 AM

Carl,

That's an excellent question. You'd think they would have had the forsight when creating the DVD standard that make that part of the implementation, but they didn't, so to answer your question, yes it is a completely separate set of data.

Mark

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Dean Kollet
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posted 05-21-2004 11:55 AM

they will obviously be on both sides of the disk (Widesreen on One, Fullscreen on the other)..I hope

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Steve Kraus
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posted 05-21-2004 09:04 PM

Are you saying if I have a disk and the player gives me options of 4:3*, 4:3 letterbox, or 16:9 (with the latter giving an anamorphic image when viewed on a conventional screen) that the 4:3 pan & scan version is different data and not just extracted from the widescreen version? That's without flopping the disk although I have no idea if they are using 2 layers.

[Using these stupid terms under protest. 1.33 & 1.78 are much preferred]

KD: I'm not entirely following why you say they must release day and date everywhere. Is it because the media hype for the US release becomes worldwide and interest has long past by the time the film opens there or is it because of rampant video piracy and everyone interested has already seen it via bootleg?

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Michael Coate
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posted 05-26-2004 03:04 AM

quote: Mark J. Marshall
You'd think they would have had the forsight when creating the DVD standard that make that part of the implementation, but they didn't

Actually, they did incorporate this into the standard. It's just not implemented very often.

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 05-31-2004 09:13 PM

Michael,

Can you provide a link to that, or site some DVDs that have used that? I can't seem to find any reference to it in the DVD specs.

Thanks.

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Michael Coate
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posted 06-01-2004 12:48 PM

quote: Mark J. Marshall
Michael,
Can you provide a link to that, or site some DVDs that have used that? I can't seem to find any reference to it in the DVD specs.

I don't have any links handy. It's also possible I have misinterpreted what is being discussed and asked. But, if I've understood correctly, here's what I can offer based on my understanding of this concept.

Implementation in the DVD standard can be evidenced by DVD players having two separate 4:3 settings: one "4:3 letterbox," one "4:3 pan-and-scan."

With most [widescreen-formatted) DVDs, there won't be any noticeable difference from the "4:3 Letterbox" mode if the user selects a player setting of "4:3 pan-and-scan" because the discs haven't been encoded (flagged, etc.) to play any differently. (The only likely encoding would be, if the disc is 16:9 enhanced, for it to downconcert properly to 4:3 letterbox if that player setting is selected and a 4:3 TV is used.) But, pop in a disc such as Criterion's The Last Temptation Of Christ (a bit ironic given the main subject title of this thread!), select 4:3 pan-and-scan on your player, and watch what happens.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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posted 06-01-2004 01:35 PM

I think this thread has taken a turn towards The Afterlife [Wink]

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Kamakshipalya Dhananjay
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posted 06-14-2004 04:03 AM

Should it not be obligatory for DVDs to include information about the subtitle-author ? And of the translator ?

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Bill Enos
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posted 06-15-2004 12:40 AM

They must be waiting for the DVD. We opened this thing sub run 2 weeks ago and kept it one week. It only brought 257 patrons on Saturday night at 7:15. The rest of the week it only broke 100 twice.

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