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Topic: extra security for Fahrenheit 9/11 this WKND?
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Stephen Furley
Film God

Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 06-26-2004 02:25 AM
Returning to the original post from Nate, which started this thread, I'm not clear if he means that some sort of serious trouble, which might justify a police guard, e.g. riot, lynching etc. was thought to be a real possibility, or that if a group of people wish to discuss a film which they have just seen, thatthey should not be allowed to do so without an armed police guard. Either way, it's rather worrying.
Steve wrote:
quote: Eric Hooper was the last to post It's America, Stephen.
Again, I don't understand this; do you mean that in America it's considered normal for people to riot after films, or that discussing a film is dangerous, subversive behavior? Or have I completely mis-understood you.
Do you often see protests outside theatres there? It's very rare here, I can only think of about three or four examples, almost all on a very small scale, by religous groups. I don't think it's ever led to volence.
On the other hand, we do have other problems here, on Thursday night there were small gangs of drunken yobs rampaging through the streets of Croydon, and even the smaller suburbs of Purley and Coulsdon, which is on the very edge of London. A number of shops had their windows broken, and there were injuries. A couple of weeks ago a much larger gang, it was reported as being about 400, but I don't know if that is correct, staged a mini riot in Croydon, and attacked a tram for some reason.
This was all because of some international football competition in which England have been playing.
I don't know much about the film, other than that it's strongly critical of President Bush. I doubt that something similar about a British Prime Minister would be thought at all controversial, a word which almost always seems to be used about this film. Also, if a siimilar British film were made, it wouldn't make much difference which party was involved. Over there it seems that half of the people strongly support the president, and the other half strongly oppose him, whereas here we tend to distrust all politicians equally, whatever their party, or policies. Turnouts at elections are low, and those who do vote tend to do so to try to keep out the candidate that they dis-like the most, by voting for the one that they dislike slightly less.
Given this, I predict small audiences, smaller than for Columbine, and no trouble whatsoever. Unless there is anything in the film about the England football team, in which case there will be major riots and bloodshed wherever it is shown. The film opens here in a couple of weeks time, but I haven't seen any publicity for it yet.
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Nate Lehrke
Master Film Handler

Posts: 396
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 06-26-2004 04:36 AM
I guess what I was saying is, I've never seen a crowd react after a film in this manner. Is was like a film club meeting. Many groups of people just stood around discussing the film, some in heated fashion. I saw a prayer group in one corner & other individuals handing out flyers. The mood of the crowd after the show was so energetic & they all wanted to do something. They wanted to make their voices heard. That’s all fine and dandy, but I don’t want them doing it on my property.
Now whether this warrants extra security, that’s up too the theatre owner; hence why I started this topic. If I were running the film, I would have extra staff on, but not an armed security guard. I feel that if you put a guard in an auditorium full of patrons; they will feel like criminals, not guests & may act up. If patrons do get out of control, that is what the local PD is for and obviously if your having re-occurring problems, put the guy with the gun and badge in.
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