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Topic: Cellphone jammers to be installed in French cinemas
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Mark J. Marshall
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From: New Castle, DE, USA
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posted 10-14-2004 11:52 PM
quote: Jim Ziegler So doctors should not be allowed to go to movies?
No, they can go, but they should entend the same courtesy to me that I extend to them. I turn off my phone, and I expect them to do the same. Don't give me this crap about being on call. How did these people get by before there were cell phones and pagers?? Have some freakin courtesy, or yes, stay the hell home. quote: Jim Ziegler If you have a problem with people on cell phones in your complex, I would suggest monotoring the auditoriums and dealing with the offenders individually.
How the HELL do you propose a multiplex do that?? quote: Jim Ziegler Honestly, this "solution" is akin to gagging all customers because a couple of them wont shut up.
Actually, what I do in that situation is crank the movie up so loud that you can't hear the person next to you anymore. No one seems to mind it when I do that. In fact, I've gotten a few "thank you"s.
But come to think of it, you might be on to something... quote: Jim Ziegler As for the personal cell phone jammers - such an item would be a violation of FCC regs in the US...
Yeah you're right. I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it will be to catch someone who has one. Especially when it looks like a phone.
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Jim Ziegler
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posted 10-15-2004 01:34 PM
quote: Mark J. Marshall No, they can go, but they should entend the same courtesy to me that I extend to them. I turn off my phone, and I expect them to do the same. Don't give me this crap about being on call. How did these people get by before there were cell phones and pagers?? Have some freakin courtesy, or yes, stay the hell home.
My guess would be that medical service was not as good.. Hell, how did these people get by before cars too? It's called progress.. If someone standing up to leave, regardless of the reason (vibrating cell phone or overactive bladder) bothers you so much, perhaps it is YOU that should not be out in public.
quote: Mark J. Marshall How the HELL do you propose a multiplex do that??
Umm... I don't know... How about scheduling an usher to walk auditoriums.. It's pretty easy to tell if someone is talking on thier phone.
quote: Mark J. Marshall Yeah you're right. I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it will be to catch someone who has one. Especially when it looks like a phone.
Well, if I ever catch someone using one against me, they will have a pain in the ass when they drop the soap in the county lockup..
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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 10-15-2004 11:02 PM
quote: Jim Ziegler If someone standing up to leave, regardless of the reason (vibrating cell phone or overactive bladder) bothers you so much, perhaps it is YOU that should not be out in public.
First of all, people who need to get up and quietly excuse themselves to go to the rest room don't bother me because they are usually quiet and discreet about it. I don't even mind them stepping over me if they're quiet about it. People who talk in a movie theater while the movie is running do bother me. And people with cell phones - even when they are on vibrate - ANSWER the phone and start talking while they make their way to the lobby, which is what makes it grossly inconsiderate and obnoxious as hell.
Now if you're suggesting that individuals who receive a call quietly and discreetly get up and excuse themselves, and wait till they get out of earshot of everyone who paid $10 to watch the movie BEFORE they start talking or making noise, then ok. And yes, I admit, that means they will probably have to call the person back because they won't make it to the lobby before the voice mail picks up. Yes, that's called courtesy, and if you suggest people do that, then fine. I'll go along with it. But you know something? That'll never happen. quote: Jim Ziegler Umm... I don't know... How about scheduling an usher to walk auditoriums.. It's pretty easy to tell if someone is talking on thier phone.
Oh yeah, that'll work. quote: Jim Ziegler Well, if I ever catch someone using one against me, they will have a pain in the ass when they drop the soap in the county lockup..
Good luck triangulating which pocket the signal is coming from in a crowded movie theater.
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Mike Blakesley
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posted 10-15-2004 11:40 PM
Doctors could use the old tried and true system: They tell the office or hospital they're going to the movies, then when they get to the theatre they tell the managment they are in auditorium so-and-so, and if a call comes in, the manager gets the doc out of the theatre and to the phone. We have done it this way at this theatre for oh about 25 years (as long as I've been here) and it works fine. Haven't lost anyone yet. We have one local doctor who REFUSES to bring his cell phone to the theatre. His staff knows that and they act accordingly. He hasn't lost anyone by going to the movies yet, either.
If you have management who is too incompetent to quickly take and relay an emergency call, then you have a lot bigger problems than cellphones.
And I agree, if people would behave themselves there would be no problem. If they feel they MUST ANSWER before they get to the lobby, why can't they simply pick up the phone and say "Hold it, I'm at the movies" and then go outside, and THEN start talking. It's these cretins that have to yak all the way out of their row and up the aisle that are the real idiots.
The bottom line is, 99% of cell phone calls are completely unnecessary, and could probably be handled after the show is over with no loss of life.
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Leo Enticknap
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posted 10-16-2004 04:07 AM
I thought this counterargument would come up in the context of doctors. I recently had an argument with my uncle - a retired hospital doctor - about this. He believes very strongly that if mobile 'phones had existed during his working life, then between 3 and 5 lives a year would have been saved by being able to contact him when he wasn't within easy reach of a land line. But despite this, I still agree with Mark, Mike and Gordon - that anyone who is in a situation whereby being contactable is that important should not put themselves in a setting where mobile 'phone use is an antisocial nuisance, e.g. a cinema auditorium.
Point taken that using jammers penalises people who are responsible about leaving their mobiles on silent &c. But there are lots of other situations whereby the mindless minority cause such a big problem that people feel it's acceptable to take action which affects everyone. For example, a speed camera will flash someone doing 2mph over the limit as the result of an atypical lapse of concentration, as well as the yob who thinks he's Michael Schumacher. But the argument for putting the cameras up says that this is an acceptable price to pay for the overall safety benefit. Personally, I believe that argument holds good for installing mobile 'phone jammers in cinemas, theatres, libraries, 'quiet carriages' on trains and mobile-free areas of restaurants. There are so many people who just won't respond to the carrot that the stick has now become necessary.
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Jim Ziegler
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posted 10-17-2004 04:09 AM
quote: Mark J. Marshall Now if you're suggesting that individuals who receive a call quietly and discreetly get up and excuse themselves, and wait till they get out of earshot of everyone who paid $10 to watch the movie BEFORE they start talking or making noise, then ok. And yes, I admit, that means they will probably have to call the person back because they won't make it to the lobby before the voice mail picks up. Yes, that's called courtesy, and if you suggest people do that, then fine. I'll go along with it. But you know something? That'll never happen.
Well, personally, when I get a call while watching a movie that looks like one I need to take, I flip the thing open as I am walking out, but I don't talk until I am out of the theatre.. This allows me to not miss the call and not annoy anyone else...
quote: Mark J. Marshall Oh yeah, that'll work.
Always worked for me..
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