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Jeremy Jorgenson
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posted 01-09-2006 03:53 PM

I suppose I'm pulling this further off topic, but ...

I remember reading an interview with Araki, back around the time Splendor came out. He said he'd love to make a massive budget action film, like the next James Bond film (which, I guess this would've been about the time Michael Apted was making his Bond film).

Too bad that never happened, it would've made for an interesting Bond to say the least.

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Phil Hill
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posted 01-09-2006 06:41 PM

Steve, not so sure it's the "queer left" as it is the "political left" in general. There are also plenty of "Right" fags out there.

There are many homo films that don't yap about the far left politics, (or the far Right) but present queers as themselves without ANY political message.

I think films like F9/11 are a discredit to ALL US citizens whereas films like Araki makes are more to enlighten us all as to NOT just the gay world as such, but more so to the bizarre world that we ALL live in.

I don't agree with Jeremy. I think if Araki had a big budget for a film, he would fail. His forte' is the low budget tell-it-like-it-is type of film. I love it!

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Greg Anderson
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posted 01-09-2006 10:54 PM

I just saw King Kong on Friday at the new Century Theatre which is so close to Larry Miller's Megaplex. The Century is nothing special, I'm afraid (and shouldn't there be more subwoofer punch from a Peter Jackson movie?) but it will probably cut into some of the Megaplex's business simply because there are a lot more houses close to the new Century. And this shift of patronage will have nothing to do with a patron's nor a theatre owner's religion or open/closed-mindedness or willingness to explain why a given movie was-or-wasn't played as scheduled. Life goes on in Utah where, despite misleading headlines, hundreds of folks are watching Brokeback Mountain this evening.

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Dave Williams
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posted 01-10-2006 02:41 PM

quote: Paul Linfesty
Oh, please! This theatre owner was clueless about the content of one of the most talked about films of the year's end?

Actually in Utah that would be true. If it were not for this thread, I would have not heard one bit about the film. Mr. Miller, a devout mormon (some say for business purposes), runs an NBA franchise that sells beer at home on sunday games, sells cars at three million locations in Utah and surrounding states, invests heavily into mormon cinema that is aimed ONLY at mormons who are devout enough to get it, and of course his many theaters.

There is no way he actually runs anything other than just to look at the numbers and meet with his executive directors of each business venture.

Utah press on this picture has been non existent, and would have stayed that way had it not been for this event.

I have no doubt that Miller had no idea about the film.

Greg,

I agree, that new century is a joke. I hate the trough mentality of the snack bar, and the seats are uncomfortable. I prefer jordan landing out in west jordan. Great seats, and they have a new GM that started yesterday who I hope will take projection a little more seriously.

Ciao

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John Wilson
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posted 01-10-2006 07:13 PM

So, the Jordan Commons Megaplex axes a romantic film...yet has no trouble playing HOSTEL? One review for HOSTEL...
>>Make no mistake about it, this is a violent, sick, and gory flick. It's not for the squeamish. I haven't seen this type of extreme violence in a North America mainstream cinema. The Takashi Miike, and Asian Cinema influences are clearly seen here.<<

Seriously screwed up.

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Phil Hill
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posted 01-10-2006 07:23 PM

Gosh John, it's NOT about violence, it's about closet fags!

OBTW: I liked "Hostel"! [Smile]

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Dave Williams
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posted 01-11-2006 04:51 AM

Here is a listing of the Megaplex in Sandy Utah of what they are showing, and what I would assume the ownership thinks they are about...

Casanova, a film about a man who likes to be very nice to women for all the right reasons.

Grandmas Boy, a family film about a good boy who loves his grandma.

Hostel, about some backpackers who find a nice room for the night.

Rumor has it, some high school girls spread nice rumors about a nice boy and how he is nice to his mother.

Fun with Dick and Jane, a kids movie about two kids who run up hills and play with a ball.

The Producers, a documentary about car salesmen.

Munich, another documentary about german car salesmen.

Memoirs of a Geisha, a story of a japanese sushi restaraunt that serves sprite instead of saki.

The Family Stone, story of a family who has a pet rock.

Syriana, Araabic version of Pollyanna.

The Ringer, boy scouts who go door to door collecting food donations for the needy.

Ciao

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 01-11-2006 09:00 AM

quote: Dave Williams
I have no doubt that Miller had no idea about the film.

quote: Dave Williams
There is no way he actually runs anything other than just to look at the numbers and meet with his executive directors of each business venture.

No doubt you're right about that, there are much more important things on his agenda that loose more $$ than the theatres do... The Minor League Ball Team for example... they have to give away tickets to get folks to come. Megaplex in general is the loosest run theatre outfit that I've ever encountered. In fact its not actually run... it just sort of happens.

I also wonder about their hiring practices... they seem to ONLY hire Mormons..... At least everyone I know there is Mormon. The staffs seem to be unbalanced in that regard. Perhaps the cleaning crews are Catholic...... [Big Grin]

I wonder if they knowingly employ any gay people? If they don't the Utah gay community ought to picket them.

quote: Dave Williams
I agree, that new century is a joke. I hate the trough mentality of the snack bar

There is one good benefit to that "tray mentality" concession system and that is that someone that didn't wash their hands after their last crap didn't hand you your coke and popcorn...... [puke]

That system has been very sucessful for Century in general and their concession per capitas are in general far higher than most other chains. Their managers also get a cut of the profits!

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Floyd Justin Newton
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posted 01-11-2006 11:30 AM

I also wonder about their hiring practices... they seem to ONLY hire Mormons..... At least everyone I know there is Mormon. The staffs seem to be unbalanced in that regard. Perhaps the cleaning crews are Catholic...... I wonder if they knowingly employ any gay people? If they don't the Utah gay community ought to picket them.

Mark: Are you attempting to start WWIII? The Morons hate
Catholics with a 'purple-passion' along with gays. In 1988,
when we had a Moron Gov. here in Ariz (Evan Mechem) who said,
"Gays don't exist"... well, that statement got him thrown
out of office through Re-call. You just DON'T piss off
some people in my state. It's a bad thing to 'even think about'!

It's my opinion that when a church can control every asspect of
a peoples lives, there's 'something wrong in the woodwork, some-
where'.

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John Pytlak
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posted 01-11-2006 12:29 PM

quote: Floyd Justin Newton
The Morons hate
Catholics with a 'purple-passion' along with gays.

That's painting Mormons with a very broad and unfair brush. [thumbsdown]

Kodak's CEO for many years was a Mormon, Kay Whitmore, who encouraged the growth of Kodak's many diversity programs during his tenure, including the GLBT Lambda employee group.

As an interesting sidelight, while on the Kodak corporate plane on a flight from NYC, Mr. Whitmore offered me my choice of refreshments, including some caffeinated ones. He ended up pouring me a Coca-Cola. [Cool]

BTW, as a practicing Catholic, I've never felt any hint of discrimination against me by Kodak in my career here.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/news/0727LR51HQ7_news.shtml

quote:
(July 27, 2004) — Kay R. Whitmore, former chairman and chief executive officer of Eastman Kodak Co., died Monday of leukemia. He was 72 years old.
Mr. Whitmore, a devout Mormon, had been diagnosed with leukemia about four weeks ago, said David Cook of Pittsford, president of the Rochester-Palmyra stake of the Church of Latter-day Saints of Jesus Christ, and a longtime family friend...

Mr. Whitmore served as president of the Rochester-Palmyra stake of the Church of Latter-day Saints of Jesus Christ, a position similar to bishop in Catholicism, from 1985 to 1988. During his tenure, he helped increase church membership, raise funds and encourage young Mormons to serve as full-time missionaries. After he was dismissed by the Kodak board of directors, he returned to serving his church, taking on the job of mission president for southern England from 1994 through 1997.

Mr. Whitmore then returned to Rochester, where he served as branch president of the young single adults organization for the Mormon Church.

Mr. Whitmore was also a staunch advocate of business involvement in reforming public education. In the 1980s, he helped develop Rochester Brainpower, a coalition of area businesses aimed at aiding city schools. In 1987, he addressed the National Forum for Youth At Risk, in Washington, D.C. He was a chairman of the National Action Council of Minority Engineers, an organization dedicated to helping minority students become engineers.

Mr. Whitmore's affinity for working with youth continued throughout his life. He and his wife, Yvonne, returned to Rochester about two months ago after serving a Mormon mission in San Diego, where they worked with college students, Cook said.

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Phil Hill
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posted 01-11-2006 03:36 PM

quote: John Pytlak
BTW, as a practicing Catholic, I've never felt any hint of discrimination against me by Kodak in my career here.

But John, you're NOT a *gay* Catholic... [Wink]

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Brad Miller
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posted 01-11-2006 04:50 PM

A couple of these posts are starting to get a little too religious for everyone's own good. Please note rule #3 and let's immediately drop the anti-Mormon comments. Thanks [Smile]

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 01-11-2006 05:00 PM

quote: Phil Hill
But John, you're NOT a *gay* Catholic...

<politically incorrect humour, not intended to cause any offence to anyone who is gay and/or Catholic>

Dialogue from The Pope Must Die:

'Are you a Catholic?'
'Of course I'm a Catholic! Why else would I be wearing a pretty uniform?'

</politically incorrect humour>

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Phil Hill
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posted 01-11-2006 05:54 PM

Leo...

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 01-11-2006 07:16 PM

quote: Floyd Justin Newton
It's my opinion that when a church can control every asspect of

a peoples lives, there's 'something wrong in the woodwork, some-

where'.

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say thats the basis of the Mormon church nor would I refer to them as Morons.... hardly there are many very fine Mormon people that I know and love... HOWEVER they are mainly the ones that have become open minded and have completely connected to the rest of general society and even so there seem to be mAny Mormons and Mormon famlies here that live in the deep end!

Regrettably very few Mormon kids are given a choice when they are young in what they choose to do regarding the "Church". Many kids also lead a sheltered life in the "mormon tradition" and they later in life have a hard time fitting into todays society, I know several Mormon people like this.... very sad indeed.... Mormon kids can only play with other Mormon kids... etc so they grow up in a vaccum bottle. What I also see alot of is way too high of expectations in Mormon famlies of their kids and the suicide rates in Mormon teens is also quite a bit higher than in other religions. They are generally made to conform to Mormonism or they can be shamed or worse yet dis-owned and told to get out. Refuse to go on your Mission and you might as well move to the moon! But this stuff also happens in other religions as well so I am not just pointing my finger at them.

I am thankful today that I was given a variety of religion in small doses by my parents and other relatives so I could learn about them and then later in my childhood be allowed to make my own choice regarding it... when I look back all I can think is how smart and progressive my parents were!

quote: Floyd Justin Newton
Mark: Are you attempting to start WWIII? The Morons hate
Catholics with a 'purple-passion' along with gays.

As for the Mormons hating the Catholics I disagree... that may be a local fued going on in AZ but not here. Here the Mormon Church halped to pay for the restoration of Cathedral Of The Madeline . Without the Church's cash input it may have never happened and an incredible building would be gone.

Regarding uneven hiring practices.... Anyone that spends three weeks in this town will see it clearly. Many buisnesses are still all one sided Mormon. This in a town that is now about 50% Mormon. Clearly many Mormon buisnesspeople do not go by their morals or by their book.

Mark

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