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Robert E. Allen
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posted 12-03-2009 01:26 AM

quote: Julio Roberto
Anybody knows more about studio support for the Technicolor thing (for real, beyond the PR announcements)?

Your question causes me to wonder Julio if Amy researched her information before she submitted the article.

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Mike Frese
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posted 12-03-2009 09:35 PM

I was under the impression that this format was a lease and you never own the equipment? At the cost of min. $2-3000 per movie. And I was also under the impression that not every studio was on board especially Disney.

Anyone have anything to add about those points?

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Scott Norwood
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posted 12-04-2009 06:59 AM

I got my copy yesterday. I didn't see anything in the 3D article that was factually incorrect. The historical perspective might have been interesting, but would not be useful to anyone except those who want to be able to run older 3D titles (which might be one or two dozen theatres in the country, at most).

The point of the article was just that this new (or revived) system may, if there is studio support, make new 3D releases available to theatres and communities that could not previously afford it.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 12-04-2009 08:57 AM

quote: Julio Roberto
I'm waiting for the price announcements for the new wave of 4K projectors, but I think it's gonna be ludicrous

I was told by the people at Christie that they are aiming for a much lower price point than the Sony 4K equipment. With the simplicity of the new projectors and the internal media block system they should be able to pull that off.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 12-04-2009 04:36 PM

I wonder what they mean by "much lower." If the cost of a digital projector was to hover in the range of a 35mm machine, then the idea of replacing it every 10 years or so might not be such a deal-breaker. It would still be bad, considering a 35mm machine can last a century or so, but it wouldn't seem quite as impossible.

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Julio Roberto
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posted 12-04-2009 05:27 PM

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
I was told by the people at Christie that they are aiming for a much lower price point than the Sony 4K equipment. With the simplicity of the new projectors and the internal media block system they should be able to pull that off.

And I hope they are talking about the new improved Sony 4K model. Just in sheer weight and raw material reduction, it should be at least a few hundred $$ cheaper [Wink]

Sony RSX-R320 and LMT-300 media block and STM-100 TMS

If it's true that they are planning on sensible pricing, then it might pose a threat to 35mm outside the rich-world. Now they only need to release them ASAP or continue to put black tape over the "IN 3-D" text on the posters for longer than necessary.

And if only distributors worldwide would get their heads out of their @sses and follow Paramount in offering almost-no-questions-asked VPF's .... done!

Recently they overprinted 35mm copies of the (spanish) film Planet 51 and were calling everyone around begging on their knees to take 2 prints .... [Roll Eyes]

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Robert E. Allen
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posted 12-04-2009 06:21 PM

quote: Scott Norwood
I got my copy yesterday. I didn't see anything in the 3D article that was factually incorrect. The historical perspective might have been interesting, but would not be useful to anyone except those who want to be able to run older 3D titles (which might be one or two dozen theatres in the country, at most).

The point of the article was just that this new (or revived) system may, if there is studio support, make new 3D releases available to theatres and communities that could not previously afford it.

I wondered after I read the article Scott if Amy knew anything about the history of 3D or just took Technicolor's word for anything she wrote. I thought historical info might be beneficial to exhibitors today as they consider how much money they sink into 3D equipment. Many of today's exhibitors weren't even born the last time we had 3D (or other special processes that are being repeated today) and seem to have little or no knowledge of the history of our industry.

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Edward Havens
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posted 12-05-2009 12:15 PM

quote: Robert E. Allen
In the July issue of Boxoffice Amy Nicholson quoted Millard Ochs President of Warner Bros. International Cinemas. Regarding the IOSONO sound system being tested at Mann’s Chinese Theatre in LA (I thought they were going back to using the Grauman’s name).

Mann has been calling the theatre Grauman's Chinese Theatre for almost a decade again. The IOSONO system is being tested in the sixplex housed next door inside the Hollywood and Highland complex, which is also called the Chinese.

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Tyler Potts
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posted 12-11-2009 08:09 PM

Anyone catch the De Niro typo in the Everybody's Fine synopsis?

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Robert E. Allen
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posted 01-18-2010 03:05 AM

I have been reading Boxoffice Magazine since the mid-forties. I have seen the changes in recent years and I think it is headed in the right direction. I miss the “Modern Theatre” section and would like to see more articles on new equipment and fewer on personalities (Who cares what director John Doe or actress Jane Doe thinks about anything?). While the articles on independent theatres are increasing I’d like to see articles on mom and pop operations out in the boonies. In this month’s anniversary issue Nato President John Fithian talks about the increase in boxoffice receipts but doesn’t express an opinion on the why. IMO the “theatre experience” is the why. Those operations where presentation quality and floor staff courtesy is stressed are the ones that are primarily responsible for driving up revenue. I’d like to say it’s because the industry is pumping out a lot of good stories but my mom taught me never to lie. Still, maybe there’s hope. What do you think?

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 01-18-2010 02:09 PM

What I saw on the release list for this year, it seems that 2010 will definitely be a banner year for the cinema owners - both "Mom and Pop" and "Big Box".

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Frank Angel
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posted 01-18-2010 08:24 PM

quote: Robert E. Allen
I’d like to say it’s because the industry is pumping out a lot of good stories but my mom taught me never to lie.

Evidently a lot of people in this industry aren't listening to their moms.

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Barry Floyd
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posted 01-19-2010 09:04 AM

quote: Robert E. Allen
I have been reading Boxoffice Magazine since the mid-forties. I have seen the changes in recent years and I think it is headed in the right direction.

I'm ready for them to bring back the annual AUGUST drive-in edition. When I first started subscribing almost 10 years ago - each August issue featured Drive-Ins. While I know the total number of drive-ins isn't anywhere near what it used to be (and never will be again), the last 10 years has seen a significant amount of resurgence of both new builds and re-opening of once shuttered theatres. I know just in the state of Tennessee there are 8 new drive-in screens that weren't here 10 years ago - and that's just the new builds.

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Robert E. Allen
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posted 02-17-2010 01:02 AM

I loved that drive-in edition Barry. What I'd also like to see is more technical articles about the booth. Perhaps even some training articles on both new innovations and existing equipment. I'm sure they could get the manufacturers or techs like Brad to provide articles. I love the articles on independents too. But I'd like to see them go to rural areas as well. Cole Hornaday has a refurbished and reopened theatre near him in Concrete, Washington.

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Manny Montes
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posted 02-26-2010 03:34 AM

just got the new edition and I guess now that I was looking for it I noticed how infatuated they are with Digital, theres even an opinion piece in this one that bashes film 3D

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