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Louis Bornwasser
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Remember Boxoffice is only just the mouthpiece for NATO, nothing more, nothing less. Just what you would expect. Louis

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Manny Montes
I noticed how infatuated they are with Digital, theres even an opinion piece in this one that bashes film 3D
To be fair, there is a much more prominent article in praise of film 3D -- an interview with a guy whose chain looks at film 3D as helping withe digital transition. And, the issue is billed as their annual look at digital cinema, so it's not too surprising. They've had a lot of film-theatre related articles lately.

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Robert E. Allen
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With no less than six articles touting digital and/or 3-D this month's Boxoffice edition (or at least the authors of the articles) have all but proclaimed film dead. With only about 5,000 of this country's estimated 40,000 screens now digital (and those mostly in the large metro areas) I'm not ready to count film out. And you can bet the financing program that has been put together by the corporate big boys will not trickle down to the small town and rural operators. Could this be an attempt by the corporate big boys (and allies such as Boxoffice) to suffocate the little guy and force movie goers into their metroplexes?

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Mike Blakesley
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Quite frankly, I don't think the corporate big boys and their allies know we exist. (Or care, either.) But the magazine HAS featured a lot of articles on smaller operations over the past year, and this particular issue WAS featuring digital cinema, so I don't think they've exactly declared film dead yet.

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Ian Parfrey
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Only in this industry can the major industry magazines and journals even try to declare film dead (assumed or otherwise)- especially when the vast majority of cinemas continue to use film.

Mind you, after reading recent articles in Boxoffice, Cinema Technology &tc, that's exactly the impression one would get.

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Peter Cane
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Well, I'm glad to see that the BOXOFFICE conversation is still going on!
March was indeed our annual Digital/3D issue, so we had naturally had lots of coverage of those topics. But our film coverage is year-round. In fact, we're looking for expert contributor(s) for an upcoming story on issues in film projection. Any volunteers? Please let me know or drop a note to our Editor, Amy Nicholson (amy@boxoffice.com).

Also thanks to those who've noticed our increased coverage of independent operators. All story ideas and suggestions for personality profiles are welcomed by Amy and me.

I hope to meet some of you at ShoWest next week.

Thanks for reading BOXOFFICE,
Peter

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Robert E. Allen
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Yes Peter, I'm aware that the March issue was a digital special. It's right there on the front cover. I was glad to see the report on Bow Tie cinemas using Technicolor's film 3D. I'm conducting a little survey on a website (not related to the theatre business) and asking, among other things, if they would attend a film just because it's in 3D. So far all the respondents have said "no". I would like to see articles on the latest projection equipment (both film and digital) and how they operate. As for experts I would encourage you to ask Brad Miller (who owns this site). There's also Ken Layton. You'll find him over on 16mm Film Talk. I don't consider myself an expert.

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Scott Norwood
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There's a nice piece in the April issue about the Coolidge Corner Theatre, which is one of the top independent houses in the Boston area. It almost got turned into a furniture store in the late 1980s, but was saved by some local residents who turned it into a nonprofit cinema. Anyone who is in the area should check it out. (Sadly, their bookings have become almost entirely mainstream over the last year or two, but it's still a gorgeous theatre.)

As for the NATO section--what happened to Kendrick Macdowell, the former NATO lawyer? I actually enjoyed reading his columns, which were generally relevant and well written. Apparently, he has been replaced (why?). Hopefully, the new guy will have something worthwhile to say to counter Fithian's usual puff piece.

I thought that the March issue was a little bit weak (in a 3D issue, I would have liked to have seen a technical article on the various 3D systems, as well as some commentary by a theatre owner who has chosen not to install 3D at all), but Boxoffice is definitely a stronger publication that it was when I started this thread two years ago. I hope that this trend will continue.

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Robert E. Allen
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I agree with you Scott about wanting to see something by someone who has decided against digital/3D. There was the Technicolor 3D piece by the head of Bow-Tie Cinemas. I agree too that the mag is getting better. But I miss the traditional red covers. Now if it's mixed in with any other magazines it'll be hard to see. Those were distinctive covers. I didn't appreciate what some might consider a vulgar title being splashed all over the front of the thing. Do you suppose the distributor pushed or paid for that?

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Scott Norwood
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I don't even think that the 3D discussion needs to involve [dlp] -- the two aren't necessarily related. I would just like to hear from some theatre owner who does not think that 3D would add anything to the type of film programming that he offers.

It was also interesting to see that Ted Mundorff (Landmark Theatres' CEO) was able to take the time to write an article for this issue, but was not able to take the time to answer the letter that I wrote to him in August about Landmark's inane trailer policies.

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Joe Redifer
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What are Landmark's inane trailer policies?

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Scott Norwood
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Trailer schedules used to be done by the local theatre managers. Trailers were only to be shown for confirmed bookings, and they were to be shown in reverse-release-date order (e.g. trailers for films opening next week were to be shown last). If the bookings or release dates changed, the trailer order changed. Also, as of a few years ago, they did not show commercials. Inappropriate trailers were not programmed on films that would attract a "family" crowd.

More recently, commercials have been added, but the same general principles applied. While it resulted in many trailer changes, this method worked well.

Within the last year or two, the company switched to centralized trailer scheduling. The person who does this is not very good at it, and regularly programs trailers that the theatre does not have, or programs trailers and commercials which are not appropriate for the feature being shown (e.g. vodka commercials on G-rated features). Additionally, the order now seems random, with the same trailers programmed in a different order on different features. The end result is that more than half of the provided trailer schedules have errors that must be fixed at the theatre level, resulting in wasted time, confusion, and errors.

I wrote to Mr. Mundorff to make him aware of this situation and request that the older system be brought back. I received no response, which I consider to be extremely rude. I have no idea if the letter actually made it to his desk (Fedex indicated that it was delivered to his office), but someone should have at least sent a form-letter response.

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Edward Havens
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Scott, I went to Landmark's Nuart Theatre in Los Angeles about two months ago or so, for their British Noir series, and your description of how they used to do things with their trailers was pretty much how they did their trailers, at least for that show. Five trailers, all of movies confirmed to be playing at the Nuart, in order from the last one booked to the one opening the following week.

Maybe the person who does the trailer programming for the East Coast does things differently from the way the West Coast person does it?

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Scott Norwood
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Sometimes they do get it right (and perhaps more attention is given to the west-coast theatres).

My point was more that it's rude for anyone to not respond to letters with legitimate questions or concerns, whether from customers, employees, or others.

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Martin Brooks
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quote: Ian Parfrey
Only in this industry can the major industry magazines and journals even try to declare film dead (assumed or otherwise)- especially when the vast majority of cinemas continue to use film.

Mind you, after reading recent articles in Boxoffice, Cinema Technology &tc, that's exactly the impression one would get.

I think that's unfair. Digital cinema is still relatively new and there's lots of issues concerning its implementation. So it's natural for a trade publication to be writing a lot about the issue. What's left to write about concerning film projection that hasn't been said hundreds of times before?

Besides, the latest issue was a special issue devoted to digital cinema.

Having said that, I had high hopes for Boxoffice after they released the first few issues under the new management team a few years ago, but it's once again gotten pretty lame since. I realize that the advertising market is bad, so most recent issues have been slim, but the design and writing have both slipped since the initial relaunch. The only articles I really enjoy are those about theatre operators and old theatres.

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