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Michael Gonzalez
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How many have worked at theaters where there was a stock room that was only assessable through an auditorum? Like behind a screen. I've seen this at a couple of different locations thankfully none that I personally had to work at.

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Justin Hamaker
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quote: Dominic Espinosa
Wouldn't it be easier to start from the quarters up? "one, two, three, four, five," then ones "six...twenty-five", etc.?
This seems to be almost second nature to me, but almost every assistant I've trained seems to have great difficulty picking it up. They learn it and use it, but they never seem comfortable with it.

As for employees counting change, this one frustrates the hell out of me. I was recently at a Taco Bell where an employee entered $20 on the computer when I handed him a $10. Sure enough, he tried to give me change for a $20. If I had my way, I would disable the amount tender feature on all POS systems.

The other one that drives me crazy is when employees get all flustered because they entered $200 instead of $20 and they think it's going to screw up the register.

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Christopher Crouch
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quote: Michael Gonzalez
How many have worked at theaters where there was a stock room that was only assessable through an auditorum?
I once worked at such a theatre. The large auditorium not only had a primary stock room attached, but also the only access to the second floor (i.e. booth and the employee break room). Worse, both doors had numeric locks that emitted loud beeps and closing mechanisms that slammed the door if you weren't careful. Naturally, there was an issue with staff not minding the door and allowing it to slam. During shift changes, guests were often treated to a door repeatedly beeping, opening a column of light in to the rear of the auditorium, then slamming loudly. And, of course, you had the individuals opening the storage area, searching with flashlights, and hauling out stock. While there was definitely some "stupid staff" involved in this, I place the majority of the blame on whomever designed this idiotic setup.

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Jeremy Weigel
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quote: Justin Hamaker
The other one that drives me crazy is when employees get all flustered because they entered $200 instead of $20 and they think it's going to screw up the register.
As long as they don't give change back for the $200. [Wink]

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Andy Frodsham
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On Saturday, my daughter went with her friend's family to see MAMA MIA at one of our local multiplexes.

When they remained in the theatre to watch the last remaining credits and music, a member of staff came over to them and sternly questioned what they were doing. At one point he suggested they has sneaked-in to see the film!

This was an Odeon theatre (once run by an organisation known for its family-friendly values). I bet Lord Rank is turning in his grave!

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Dominic Espinosa
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quote: Justin Hamaker
If I had my way, I would disable the amount tender feature on all POS systems.
AMEN! Our ticketing system here currently allows you to total out without amt tender for tickets but for concessions it's not an option.
Really a pain because with all these kids being new and most never having worked a register you can teach them to ignore it -- the amt tender feature doesn't exist in their minds then. Oh well.

As a DM I've had the eye-opening experience of working with a lot more people all at once and seeing what kind of staffs there are in general out there and man, I have to say, I am shocked by how low the standards in most organizations are!

I've been told a few times that my standards are too high or that I ask too much of employees (like expecting them to stand when customers approach the box office window, or not read books, text message, play on their laptops while on duty, etc.)

If you consider the standard folks had to adhere to even 20 years ago for much less pay these kids ought to be grateful!

Especially since they don't have to wear those bulky jackets, white gloves, or hats from way back in the day. Which by the way I'd totally bring back if I could.

Honestly, I think the downfall of our society can be blamed on irresponsible parents and the stupid ways we compensate for them (starting with the hippie and boomer generations really) that failed to impart common sense and intelligent manners to their kids. Now those kids are having kids that are borderline incapable of survival without the technology they take for granted.

We've got drugs for everything and harnesses with leashes when we ought to be teaching kids to deal with sh** and not run into the street.

Now I'm not blaming all problems on society of course, I know that a fair amount of my frustrations are due to the fact that I'm young and people don't like taking orders from someone their age or their junior, but I digress...

More and more managers are becoming surrogate parents required to teach their employees fundamentals just to get an honest days work out of them.

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Joe Redifer
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quote:
these kids ought to be grateful!
You're gettin' old!

Anyway, kids these days are entitled to having it easier. They are our children, for Science's sake! We don't want them to have to suffer anything too strenuous! Give them what they are entitled to. And yes, they are also entitled to be on your lawn.

I think it is YOU who should be thankful that they even decided to show up at all.

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Brad Allen
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quote: Dominic Espinosa
I've been told a few times that my standards are too high or that I ask too much of employees (like expecting them to stand when customers approach the box office window, or not read books, text message, play on their laptops while on duty, etc.)

Definitely should never be allowed.

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Justin Hamaker
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I have a strict policy that employees are not to have their cell phones on them while they are on the clock. I have written up and even fired employees for text messaging while on the clock. I really wish more companies would implement policies like this for any employees who are working face to face with customers.

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Dustin Mitchell
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We allow the reading of books during slow times (Monday-Thursday during the school year) but ONLY if all tasks have been completed. In box office especially it would be unreasonable in my opinion not to allow some sort of reading material during slow times. Between 7:15 and 9:15 on weekdays can be very slow. Unless you want to allow your box office person to leave their station to do cleaning chores-which I suppose would be possible depending on your theatre's layout and location-what do you expect them to do for the hour and a half to two hours they won't be serving a single customer.

That being said, lines must be drawn. We have a strict policy of one book only, no backpacks, no homework (when you allow homework eventually their workspace will turn into a 'study desk' with notebooks, binders, and textbooks spread all over the place). Books must be put away IMEDIATELY when a customer approaches or if a member of management tells the employee to put the book away. It has also been made clear that being able to read when it is slow is a privilage and not a right and can be revoked if abused.

Floor staff should not be allowed to have cell phones on the floor, period. I have heard of people using their cell phone cameras to take pictures of credit card numbers, etc. Laptops would also be going to far in my opinion.

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Louis Bornwasser
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White Castle rules: the hamburger chain:

You are helping a customer
You are cooking
You are cleaning
You are clocking out
OR
You are fired.

Really good rules for every cinema.Imagine how clean they would be!!!! Louis

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Dustin Mitchell
It has also been made clear that being able to read when it is slow is a privilage and not a right and can be revoked if abused.
Exactly. At my old theater we had some people who abused the privilege and had been bringing out stuff like Cosmopolitan magazines (which I wouldn't have much problem with but the guests complained about them being inappropriate). So they were like "Be careful what you bring out there; we don't want comments" whereas with me the only comments I got were people seeing my computer or math textbooks and striking up a conversation about either subject (since the Seattle area has it's share of computer nerds).

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Marc Hansen
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Remember the old saying:

If you have time to lean, you have time to clean.

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Dustin Mitchell
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I will repeat and clarify-if your theatre layout/location makes it practical for your box office person to leave their position and do lobby cleaning when it is slow, great. If your layout prevents this or if it would be a significant security issue and your box person must remain in box at all times, what do you expect them to do when there aren't customers?! Things I can think of to do in box:

1) wipe down counters
2) clean glass
3) sweep and mop floor
4) Durrr......

I'm willing to change my mind on this, but I honestly can't think of a reason not to allow box employees to read a book when there are no customers about and all their tasks have been completed.

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Dominic Espinosa
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quote: Dustin Mitchell

1) wipe down counters
2) clean glass
3) sweep and mop floor
4) Durrr......

5) Read the synopsis sheets so you have more than a blank expression to offer the inquisitive guests.
6) Organize the stationary/supplies/cabinets under the counters
7) Update the reader board when practical (changeover days only)
8) Prepare the marquee change (figure reusable letters for each panel based on titles coming down/going up, again changeover days only)
9) Fill out the "who's working today" (or similar) sheet

I'm sure there are other things that could be lumped in.
With my current chain only half the locations have dedicated box offices. One of which uses theirs all the time, during the weekdays we use an extra register at the con stand for the other location.

The one with the all-the-time box office is never really "dead" as we've spread the shows out sufficiently that there is never a break longer than 40 minutes and there are only a couple of those per day.

I think in general the dedicated box office is the way to go if business volume permits. And if that's the case then there should be enough work that they don't need something to keep them busy.

My opinion is simply that when someone walks up, guest, potential guest, person cruising the street whose eye was caught by something in our window they should look in and see a friendly, attentive employee.
No guest should feel like they're inconveniencing the person they're about fork over their money with their petty request to be entertained.

Unfortunately most box office cashiers, unless rigidly trained to begin with, will not be the snap-to-attention individuals that create that friendly, attentive atmosphere that really should be the gimmick that draws people to the theater rather than some b/s like DLP or whirling dervishes or whatever the trend is.

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