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Author Topic: 3-D Dying a quick death at the box office this summer Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-30-2011 04:21 PM                     ..be more interesting to see how each market area does with this sort of poll then really do a fair comparison on the total percentage per each question.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-30-2011 05:02 PM                     I find it interesting that everyone is ignoring history. 3D comes around every 30 years, sticks around for a short time, untill people find that 3D is just a gimic, and then it goes away. THIS IS HISTORY, and since people are too stupid to learn from history, history will always repete itself. Other things like sound, color, C-scope ADD to the film. 3D detracts.  |  IP: Logged Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 05-30-2011 06:50 PM                     quote: Frank Cox CBC is running an online poll here Do you enjoy watching movies in 3D? 1. Yes, I love my summer blockbusters with the goofy glasses! 2. I'm selective about what I'll go see in 3D. 3. I prefer 2D, but I'll go if my friends are going. 4. I go out of my way to see movies in 2D. WOW those poll questions don't seem biased at all! That being said, I guess I'm in the "selective" camp, but that applies equally to 2D as well as 3D.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-30-2011 09:18 PM                        All surveys are biased. Louis  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-30-2011 09:42 PM                        That article rides on the opinion of that Richard Greenfield idiot. Would somebody go and unplug his blog or something? I guess everybody is trying to blame the decline in 3D business on one thing: ("People are tired of the high 3D prices and/or the glasses") I think that is true to a point, but I think it's more like a combination of things. First, people will pay the price gladly if the movie is any good. When's the last 3-D movie people were raving about? (Answer: Avatar.) There's part of the trouble right there: No movies worth raving about. Case in point: The new Pirates movie, at least according to the critics, ISN'T VERY GOOD. People don't want to spend hard-earned money on movies that AREN'T GOOD, you Hollywood nit-wits! There's also the economy. Movies traditionally do well in down times, but this particular time has been SO down for SO long that it's got to impact even the lower-priced forms of entertainment. Even here in Montana, where vacationing is cheap, people are opting to stay closer to home. About animation -- the reason it's doing less business is as follows. Listen up, studio executives: You are killing that market by shrinking the DVD window. Parents aren't stupid: They know the movie's coming on DVD in 3 months, or PVOD in 2 months, and the kids don't give a shit when they see it (they can always watch "Finding Nemo" again for the 2000th time) so they'll save a bundle by letting their kids watch it at home. And if they DO go out to the movie, they know from past experience that the kids won't keep their 3-D glasses on anyway so why should they opt for 3D? Besides, "Rango" proved that 3D is not necessary for an animation hit. I agree with the sentiments that 3-D ought to be a rare event. Maybe one movie per studio per year, if that. And there should be an industry law against "conversions." I have yet to hear rave reviews on the 3-D in one of those things.  |  IP: Logged Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 05-30-2011 10:15 PM                     quote: Louis Bornwasser All surveys are biased. Louis Sure, but it's usually in the sampling, not with such obviously slanted phrasing. Not that an internet poll like that is scientific or anything. And for the record, the only truly "goofy" 3D glasses I've ever seen are these: But at least you're ready for anything even if they make you look like an idiot.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 05-30-2011 10:28 PM                        Oh I want a pair of those in my color meter case! They're so goofy they're cool.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-30-2011 10:47 PM                     Oh yes Paul. I want to see a picture of you looking like this...  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-30-2011 11:08 PM                     .....think I'll stay 2D for sure. To quote a phrase: "wackiness ensures" -Monte  |  IP: Logged Tony Gallimore Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: Willis, Virginia, USA Registered: Jul 2009 posted 05-30-2011 11:17 PM                     Predictions made before the big 3D onslaught are now being fulfilled. Like the Canadian survey says... 90% of viewers avoid anything to do with 3D and those irritating glasses. I've personally chosen to not view any feature not offered in 35mm... and lots of my friends are doing the same. The ultramodern age of digital came before the technology was ready, assuming it ever will be. It's just as annoying to watch an out-of-convergence digital presentation as it would be to watch an out-of-frame 35mm presentation. The music industry has been dealing with the same kind of problems for years now. The studio produced music has been so purified that it's not believable. It's much too perfect and unnatural. The artists don't sound human, make no mistakes... not to mention that electronic hiss in the background. I was in the broadcast industry for about twenty years and most who voiced objections wanted to hear concert versions of the music so they could hear the mistakes, crowd noises and etc. Film, too, seems to be more believable with it's green lines in the emulsion and splices here and there... and let's not forget those neat cues every twenty minutes. Our patrons do take notice of these things. The Hollywood powers that be should ask what the public would prefer rather than take this ram-it-down-their throats attitude. I think the rebellion is on!!  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-31-2011 12:14 AM                     quote: Tony Gallimore Like the Canadian survey says... 90% of viewers avoid anything to do with 3D The survey doesn't say that at all. It says that ~40% avoid 3D at all costs and ~20% who prefer 2D but will see whatever the hell their friends want to see.  |  IP: Logged Tony Gallimore Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: Willis, Virginia, USA Registered: Jul 2009 posted 05-31-2011 12:39 AM                     You're right Chris... I stand corrected... the Canadian survey reflected 90 votes rather than percent; still... the survey did give me the impression folks prefer 2D when given a choice.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 05-31-2011 01:06 AM                     quote: Bruce Hansen I find it interesting that everyone is ignoring history. 3D comes around every 30 years, sticks around for a short time, until people find that 3D is just a gimmick, and then it goes away One slight problem with that "analysis"... the previous major 3D fad periods only lasted two to three years, 1952 to 1955 and 1981 to 1983. We are currently in the eighth year of the current 3D lifecycle, which far exceeds any true definition of fad, trend or gimmick. However, I do agree with the general consensus too many effing movies are wrongly being shot or converted to 3D.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-31-2011 06:23 AM                        . . . but, "It is the FUTURE of cinema! All movies will be 3D!!!" Louis  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 05-31-2011 09:34 AM                     I'll weigh in with everything Mike Blakesley said. Our experience this year has been to see each 3D presentation outdone by the 2D. As far as the economy goes, we figured with a beautiful weekend coming we would take it on the chin with people in our area exiting to the Jersey Shore and our grosses would be down. Wrong. We had a very strong Friday-Monday and all the pictures performed well. The 2D Panda and the 2D Priates outgrossed the 3D presentations I ran through the Hangover 2 prints and after watching it, I thought: "What the hell are we doing with four prints of this?" Wrong again. Good thing we had four as the picture did excellent business. So, did our grosses do well because people didn't go to the Shore on account of gas prices? Wrong again, as it was reported in the local paper that the Garden State Parkway experienced MAJOR traffic jams and beaches filled up from Sandy Hook to Long Beach Island. Despite the economy and the beautiful weather, we had our best Memorial Day business in years. Go figure.  |  IP: Logged

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