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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 09-15-2001 06:46 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My (least) favorite social question:

"Is (fill in movie name) good?" Like I'm going to say "No, it sucks, don't come and see it!"

Or,

"When are you going to get some good movies?" As if we have any control over what gets made!

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Brad Miller
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"Is (fill in movie name) good?" Like I'm going to say "No, it sucks, don't come and see it!"

Mike, I've said that to people a record number of times this year. Granted I am not working in a box office selling tickets, but let's admit it...movies have SUCKED this year.

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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)


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Yes, it is true. Movies have sucked this year. "But" If we buy garbage they will produce more "garbage".

However if we " spend our money on other entertainment items " the sooner quality entertainment returns.

The quality was much better in the fifties and sixties when product wasn't as plentifull but quality was superior, They did not produce as many films but the quality was far superior.

Am I wrong?


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Randy Stankey
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I will usually say something like, "If you like to watch <insert genre here> movies, you'll like this one."

I think a lot of movies are targetet to one particular kind of audience. Obviously, the movie companies would like to have EVERYBODY pay to see ALL of their movies but, in reality, that's just not going to work.

We have War movies, Teenage movies, Comedies, Adult Dramas, Action movies and a hundred other categories or sub-categories of movies. I think that almost every movie has its merits IF you can correctly identify it's main audience.

For instance: People who didn't like the movie, Clerks, are probably NOT going to like Jay and Silent Bob. People who like Clerks and Jay and Silent Bob are probably NOT going to like Princess Diaries. However, families with pre-teen girls are likely to love it. (BTW: I think Princess Diaries is an EXCELLENT movie for pre-teen girls. It goes back to the old familiar Disney "formula" we all know and love.)

When I am asked the question, "Is it good?", the answer I want to give is, "I might not have liked it but there's got to be somebody out there who will, otherwise it wouldn't have been made."

The scattershot marketing techniques the movie companies use nowadays is only serving to confuse movie goers. When they come in to see two or three movies in a row that they didn't like they are more likely to pass on that one movie that they definately will like. Their marketing only serves to shoot themselves in the foot.

Thus, it is up to US to help people figure out which movies people will like to watch to keep them comming back. Like I said, if they keep comming to the movies and seeing things that they don't like, they are more likely to stay home and watch DVDs.
We, the people who work in the movies should start thinking of ourselves as sales people, just as if we worked in a clothing store. You wouldn't want to sell somebody a pair of pants that doesn't fit them, would you? Why would you try to sell them a ticket to a movie that doesn't "fit" them either?

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Jan Kisluk
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My favorite question is "Is it supposed to be good?" Nope, they spent all this money making a film that they hoped would be bad.

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Mike Blakesley
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I'll be the first to agree that many of this year's movies have SUCKED, but...I got a bank payment to make, and besides, one man's trash is another's treasure, so who are we to judge. After all, somebody at Fox must've liked "Freddy Got Fingered."

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JC Cowles
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It's hard to believe who that would be...but you are right. The mere fact that Tom Green continues to find employment is beyond my comprehension.

Most of the questions I get asked is...who was that guy in the movie about the thing having to do with y'know...??

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Joe Redifer
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Damn. Just when I had almost forgotten about "Freddy Got Fingered" it had to be brought back up. I literally forgot what Tom Green's name was... I just referred to him as "that unfunny goatee guy". Now I know his name again. Damn. Everytime I see him, though, he is always portraying the exact same personality. The morons of the world will get tired of him soon and he should go away. At least let's hope so.

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Ken Lackner
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For some reason, I have found that many people seem to think there is one person at each projector the whole time!! For example, when I was talking to my uncle about my job and I told him I was the Booth Manager, he, under the impression that there was a projectionist at every projector, seemed to think that I could tell people which movies they were going to "watch" and I could pick the one I wanted to watch. Yeah, right!

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John Pytlak
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Ken said: "I could tell people which movies they were going to "watch" and I could pick the one I wanted to watch. Yeah, right!"

One person responsible for 12 to 16 screens means they "watch" about 40 movies during an 8 hour shift. Probably an impossible task, so theatres trying to "do film right" need to train and empower their floor staff to monitor the picture and sound quality and report any problems immediately. Likewise, my suggestion of adapting the SMPTE Theatre Quality Evaluation Program by enlisting a group of technically-saavy movie buffs to be your "eyes and ears" in return for free admission.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
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Joshua Lott
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John,

What is the SMPTE program? Do you have a link describing it?


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Paul G. Thompson
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OK, here is one to laugh at.

We had a small theater chain here in Washington State that hired a local film critic to advertize the movies being run in Mount Vernon. Well, the critic blasted most of the movies so bad over the local radio stations that nobody would watch them. Then the critic would say what theater had the movie.

The theater business owner seemed to be at a complete loss as to why the grosses for a specific movie were worse than everyone else.

The critic finally lost his contract - when the theater chain went bankrupt.


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John Pytlak
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Joshua asked: "What is the SMPTE program? Do you have a link describing it?"

The SMPTE Theatre Quality Evaluation Program (TQEP) provided an evaluation form that SMPTE members attending movies could use to help theatres identify and correct presentation problems. The original technical paper and evaluation form are in the Film Tech "Manuals" section under "Instructional Documents".

The original TQEP had limited success, since SMPTE members were not uniformly distributed throughout the country. For example, theatres in the Los Angeles area often received multiple evaluations for each screening, whereas theatres in rural areas never received evaluations. The principles of having technically-saavy theatre-goers subjectively evaluate presentation quality were later adopted by the Lucasfilm THX Theatre Alignment Program (TAP) and the Kodak ScreenCheck program.

I'm suggesting that the TQEP evaluation form could be updated and modified, and that technically-saavy moviegoers could be enlisted by theatres to evaluate presentation quality on a routine basis, perhaps in return for free admission.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

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Joshua Lott
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John,

Thanks for your ever flowing fountain of knowledge. I will see if I can work something out here.

Josh

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Sean McKinnon
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I think that my company should expand its mystery shopper program to cover a little bit more on the presentation quality.

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