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Author Topic: Opera 6 Kick's A$$ Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-24-2004 02:02 PM                       Thanks, Brad. That's encouraging to hear. I got the version with Java, not sure why, though. Is Java used all that much? It also came with "Java Web Start", which I have no idea what that's for. I'm really a no-nonsense, bare-bones kind of user, and Opera appeals to me on the surface. Not sure about the Java stuff, though... seems like a lot of fluff.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-24-2004 02:14 PM                     Java is nice for some fancy web-browser functions. But some spyware browser hijacks like Cool Web Search can install themselves into your machine using Javascript code. Up to date anti-viral apps can block a lot of them though.  |  IP: Logged David Buckley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 525 From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2004 posted 09-24-2004 03:31 PM                        Can I add another vote for FireFox I was (until just a few daya ago) a comitted IE user purely because the several other browsers including Opera and NetScape, usually many releases over, just didnt "feel" right. Firefox "feels" right. I say graphical, 'cos I still use lynx as well...  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-24-2004 04:06 PM                        Ditto. I've tried deploying Opera multiple times (different versions) across hundreds of computers and have never been happy. Some machines it will work fine on, others it will crash / act up / whatever like crazy. It also appears that either the developers all got pissed drunk before reading relevant standards or they never read them at all. FireFox on the other hand kicks much ass and I haven't had any problems on the upwards of 200 systems I've deployed it on. If you want mouse gestures, write a plug-in. If you don't want to write a plug-in just wait a bit, there'll be one out shortly.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-24-2004 06:00 PM                       Think I'm going to give that one a try, my wife's been suggesting it, too.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-31-2004 01:26 PM                       UPDATE: Yep! Running Firefox now... it's the one. I agree with David's assessment that it feels right. Going to give it the acid test over the next couple of weeks, and if there are no problems, I'll be deleting IE for good.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-31-2004 01:34 PM                     I ave been trying firefox for a week now and am hapy the only bug I have and it is probably something I did is I can't get the AltenaTiff plugin to work it insists on using QuickTime plugin to vew any Tiff files and Altena is the only one that will display the Patent office tiff files  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-31-2004 03:19 PM                     I typically use Photoshop viewing TIFFs, although a $600 app like that isn't a realistic choice for most people. I've been using Firefox for a couple months now and have no complaints. I ditched Internet Explorer several months ago in favor of Mozilla and switched to Firefox. In all that time I have had next to nothing showing up in anti-spyware scans from both AdAware 6 and Spy Bot Search and Destroy 1.3. I also installed the Mozilla Thunderbird e-mail client. It runs a little slower than Outlook Express but it is a whole lot safer to use. All of the computers at our office now have Firefox and Thunderbird set at the default browsers and e-mail clients.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-31-2004 04:16 PM                       That's good news, Bobby. I saw the Thunderbird email client on the Mozilla site, but I've never used anything like that for email before (or Outlook). I've only ever used Eudora.  |  IP: Logged Ron Yost Master Film Handler Posts: 344 From: Paso Robles, CA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 10-31-2004 05:53 PM                     Gordon, I don't think it's something you did. I can't get the AlternaTIFF plug to work with Firefox, either. For those that don't know, the patent images will not open at all online without having the proper plugin installed (the plug is free, tho). They're not 'ordinary' TIFF images, though I don't know exactly what's different about them. To quote the USPTO info page: "The plug-in you use cannot be just any TIFF image plug-in. It must be able to specifically display TIFF files using ITU T.6 or CCITT Group 4 (G4) compression." More info, including where to get the free plugin, at: Patent Full-Page Images info Even when one saves them to disc it's a pain that Photoshop (CS) doesn't map them properly, without changing a non-sticky setting for each and every image loaded (as far as I can determine) .. but lowly Windows Picture Viewer does. The setting to map them correctly in Photoshop CS is: image/pixel aspect ratio/square Otherwise, PS displays them like a squeezed anamorphic image. Too narrow. Ron Yost  |  IP: Logged Jeff Akin Film Handler Posts: 48 From: Salem, OR, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 11-01-2004 02:56 AM                        I've been a pretty die hard Safari user for quite some time now. I'm getting Firefox right now to give it a shot. The less sheeple that use M$ Internet Exploder, the better!  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-01-2004 06:37 PM                     quote: Ron Yost Otherwise, PS displays them like a squeezed anamorphic image. Too narrow. Sounds like PhotoshopCS bug. I'm still using old and trusty Photoshop 6 and such images display fine there. I suspect the CS thing has something to do with the additions of various video-oriented settings. You can start off a new image in PhotoshopCS using NTSC-oriented non-square pixels, or any number of other video format standards.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-01-2004 10:18 PM                     The only other tiff viewer that will view them I have found was PMVIEW and it had resolution issues Photoshop usually left out part of the diagrams  |  IP: Logged Jeff Akin Film Handler Posts: 48 From: Salem, OR, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 11-01-2004 11:28 PM                        My vote still sits with Safari. It's snappier, and it takes up less of the landscape on the screen. Not a bad browser, though. Beats the hell out of aything M$ forces on their customers.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-02-2004 12:16 AM                        quote: Jeff Akin It's snappier, and it takes up less of the landscape on the screen. Huh? Either browser can be sized as you see fit. Safari and Firefox run at about the same speed for me. Next to no difference. One thing I hate about Safari is selecting your bookmarks. First you go to the top of the screen and click BOOKMARKS, then you must slode down and select BOOKMARKS BAR and then you select your bookmarks. With Firfox you just click BOOKMARKS at the top of the screen and there are your bookmarks! Yay!  |  IP: Logged

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