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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
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 - posted 01-30-2002 07:00 PM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would prefer the original style links on the bottom and maybe a Java pop-up window (that can be minimized) for the chatroom status?

-Aaron

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
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 - posted 01-30-2002 07:13 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As long as we're all nitpicking here...I wish there was a way to turn off the chatroom feature so it doesn't update every few seconds. It slows my connection down (I live in the boonies) and it's annoying. There's already a link there to update who's "in" so it doesn't need to be automatic, does it?

The layout itself is cool, I think. The chatroom is cool too...I got in on "day 1" for a few minutes.

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Gerard S. Cohen
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From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
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 - posted 01-30-2002 08:21 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Although Film-tech works fine with my Windows ME and MSN,
while reading the thread "Opera 6 Kicks A$$" one day there was a series of loud thunderclaps. With each boom a MSN icon disappeared from the frame (skin) on my monitor screen. Then Film -tech and MSN
froze. Shutting down I got the message "This program [MSN] has performed an illegal action and will be shut down." Same thing
happened with a newer "Opera 6..." thread. Today my email contained
a message announcing a reply to the Opera 6 thread, but when I went to delete it, The booming, deleting icons and lockup occured again.
This is a pain, since I would like to follow the thread and possibly install Opera 6.0, if the comments of Film-techers are favorable.

Has anyone else experienced this? My VShield and Viruscan detect nothing. I've just disabled my PopUpKiller, which is the only program
I have that can generate a "boom", (when it detects and kills a popup),but that hasn't worked in many months, even when activated.


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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 01-30-2002 08:42 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My only complaint with opera6 and the new layout is the menu is to tightly spaced making selection difficult
It almost needs to be double spaced
especially on a laptop

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Dave Macaulay
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From: Toronto, Canada
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 - posted 01-30-2002 08:55 PM      Profile for Dave Macaulay   Email Dave Macaulay   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I didn't know anyone actually used MSN Explorer!

From what I've heard this is a bastardized IE5 that "simplifies" internet use much like the AOL browser.
If you don't need the "simplification" you should just get rid of it and use the unabridged IE, Netscape, or O*era (I don't want to blow up your system again so I won't spell it out).
Unfortunately it may emulate AOL and be near impossible to remove...

O*era has some great features (for example the mouse gesture control is sweet and the tabbed windows layout is addictive) and some annoying peculiarities, but once I got used to it I don't use IE unless unavoidable (Film-Tech.com was unuseable in O*era until recently). I stopped trying Netscape a long time ago, it was slow and unstable - it might be great now but I'm off it in much the same zealous way Brad loves it...
Try O*era for free, you get some ads but can decide if you like it. Registering it and thus removing the ads is pretty cheap ($US39).

And I agree the auto-refresh is annoying. Can the script be modified so it only refreshes if there is a change to the chatroom list rather than on a timer?

At least O*era doesn't "click" when refreshing.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 01-30-2002 09:33 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Some of the complaints and suggestions here are possible, but many are not for a variety of reasons. I did not start a thread asking for opinions and troubleshooting yet because quite simply I am not finished. Having a way to see if anyone is in the chat room has always been the #1 request of members. Actually pulling that request off is requiring a lot more than I bargained for when I started hacking things. Things like this take time, and that is something I have not had much to spare of in the last couple of days. It was either shut down the site for awhile until I finished upgrading it, or keep it online and have some glitches. I chose to keep it online.

Since the change of the design, quite a few problems have turned up that I have seen but have not even been addressed yet. Some of the members have already reported verified problems with the new design. The idea here is obviously to keep the site accessible by as many browsers and platforms as possible, but there does come a point as to what can be done and how much time I have to spend on trying to make every person's system in the world able to navigate the site. I am by no means finished, but I can tell you that Netscape will always work if you come to the site one day and cannot navigate because I am changing things. I design in Netscape and only once finished do I bother to check other browsers for compatibility.

Technical glitch reports are very much welcome, but please do make sure to tell me what operating system you are using, what browser you are using and what kind of internet connection you have. Without that information any such report is useless, so please keep that in mind.

If anyone has further ideas for improving the site, please feel free to pass them along. However please understand that it is impossible to please everyone and make everybody's system compatible. In the end I will settle with what I feel is the best compromise.

As to the "ticking" noise from the chatroom monitor, that is an Internet Explorer issue. This only occurs once every 60 seconds. The ONLY way to remedy that is to make a correction to YOUR computer, or simply stop using that browser and opt for a better one. It is a simple procedure, but will take some time to put together a quick "how to" page. The chat room monitor will not be removed, so please do not ask. Way too many people requested this, I put way too much effort into making it work, and the chat room has seen an amazing increase in it's use since the implementation of the monitor frame. Most of the time all it takes to get a chat going is for one person to go into the chat room and wait. Usually another member will join in within a few minutes and I've seen the chats run for hours from there as people come and go. If you've never participated in the chat room, do step in, as I believe you will find many of the discussions quite interesting. Also, the chat room monitor should not be slowing down an internet connection any more than someone sending an "Instant Message" or an "ICQ message". The data sent is so minimal that unless the computer is really slow or a dialup connection is absurdy slow, it will not slow anything down. I am sending this post from a 26k AOL dialup and have only seen a split second flash of time that it takes to perform the refresh. If anyone is legitimately seeing a slow down, I need specific information about your setup like I listed above in order to troubleshoot.


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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 01-30-2002 10:11 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think the chatroom monitor is cool, but of course having the links on the side does look a bit weird at first. I could easily make a pop up window (non-java) that would host just the chatroom monitor while the rest of the site stays as it was, but how many people would that annoy? It would always cover something unless it was minimized. And if it were minimized you couldn't see who was in the chat. Kind of a double-edged sword.

The only thig I would change is to increase the spacing between the links on the left to make them more distinguishable and make the chatroom window take up only 40% of the vertical screen instead of the 60% it seems to be taking up now.


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Ken Lackner
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 - posted 01-30-2002 10:35 PM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe,

This is of course just my opinion, but I think the popup window would be the best idea. I defintely like the links on the bottom.

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This one time, at Projection Camp, I stuck a xenon bulb....

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 01-30-2002 11:29 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The "click" sound in IE can be easily turned off.

On Win2K:

Start
Settings
Control Panel
Sounds and Multimedia

Scroll the list down to "Windows Explorer", then highlight "Start Navigation".

In the "Name:" drop-down menu, select (None).

Click OK.

No more clicking sound.

This should also work for other versions of Windows.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 01-30-2002 11:37 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Ken listen carefully as I will now quote the Large man...

"Popups are evil!

I wholeheartedly agree with him and there will never be popups on the site. You mine as well drop this now because you have stated you dislike the chat room monitor. Fine. But I don't need to hear it a second time, especially right after I state that it will stay.

Now go back to the main page and read that yellow text that you never do. There you will find the solution to rid yourself of the chat monitor screen.

By the way David, thanks for the instructions. I didn't think it would be difficult, but I didn't think it would've been quite so easy.


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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 01-30-2002 11:45 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I didn't spend $1000 on becoming an MCSE for nothing.

Now what is the right mouse button for?


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Steven Gorsky
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From: Frederick, MD, USA
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 - posted 01-31-2002 12:57 AM      Profile for Steven Gorsky   Author's Homepage   Email Steven Gorsky   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The right mouse button is for when the left one wears out.

Steven Gorsky

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Joe Beres
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 - posted 01-31-2002 09:08 AM      Profile for Joe Beres   Email Joe Beres   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad and Joe,
I love the new set up. I have two wishes to speak of at the moment: The first of which Grodon brought up. Now that I am addicted to Opera, it would be nice to have some space between the menu items on the upper right, and that is a minor thing. The other is that I woould love to see the chat status window reversed, that is white on black, rather than black on white. Is that even possible? I love the design here, and I think that the white window detracts from it a little bit, and that is even more of a minor thing. That being said, you guys, as always, are doing a fantasctic job on the site! keep up the great work!

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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 - posted 01-31-2002 09:16 AM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
The spacing is fine for IE and Netscape. Opera seems to have a problem handling proper line spacing overall, including squishing regular text blocks. It still has a few issues to work out.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 01-31-2002 11:43 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I haven't seen anyone in the chat room for DAYS. I wonder if perhaps the fad has died? I'm not much of a chat/phone/IM person myself.

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