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Author Topic: 70 million Americans are now federal criminals Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-25-2003 08:57 PM                     In recent news Clearchannel Communications announced it would discontiue the practice of taking large sums of money from "independent consultants" who then suggest playlists. In other words, the payola practice is finally biting them on the ass to the tune of FEWER LISTENERS! I know all kinds of people who are now installing XM and Sirius brand satellite radio systems. The sound quality is not really all that great (it sounds like a step down from standard FM quality to me). But you have far superior music selection in any kind of format -and uncensored too for the folks who like potty mouth lyrics. Radio programming has largely gone to shit. I only listen to CDs in my truck, and am pondering the purchase of one of those satellite radio getups. The regular broadcast stations must improve their variety of music instead of just playing the same very few songs the big record labels make them play on endless repetition. Broadcasting variety is the only thing that will get me to stop shuffling through old CDs. Variety is the only thing that will get me to buy any new ones either. I don't care about "performers" who just sound like some other group (which pretty much describes about 90% of what's out there).  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 04-25-2003 09:02 PM                     Lawsuit that huge? That is totally ridiculous! I get angry when I read shit like that. I would just tune into a high quality FM station and record the crap on whatever media I have handy. Let them try to stop that!  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 04-25-2003 09:24 PM                     Who's going to take care of my 35mm stuff while I am rotting in sing sing  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 04-25-2003 09:26 PM                        I will! Got a big FedEx box?  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 04-26-2003 12:38 AM                     I find it interesting that many of the same people who sided with Claude Ayakawa regarding piracy of his material think that just because the owner of copyrighted material is a large company it is OK to steal. Try that logic down at the bank Monday morning.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Fuentz Expert Film Handler Posts: 230 From: Fresno, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2003 posted 04-26-2003 02:11 AM                     Regarding the whole Payola thing, the radio station I worked for was party to that long before being bought by Cheap Channel. We had numerous "concert trip getaway" contests that were paid for by record labels in exchange for playing whatever crappy flavor-of-the-month band they were hyping at the moment. One label even paid for the station a new jingle package in exchange for playing their records. The PD at the time justified it by saying "Oh, it's not payola becuase they're not giving the stuff to any one DJ at the station." Whatever. It boils down to the station got valuable stuff (or in the case of the trips, a station listener) in exchange for playing crappy records they sure as h*ll wouldn't have touched otherwise. (The trip promos always said "courtesy of Megasuck Records and the station", but I still think it was a shady arrangement.)  |  IP: Logged Bob Healey Film Handler Posts: 93 From: Milford, CT Registered: Sep 2001 posted 04-26-2003 02:40 AM                     Regarding the $98 billion lawsuits, I attend one of the schools in question. Besides the music piracy, the movie piracy is so bad that the campus theater has had to reduce the amount of screenings by 1/3 because we can no longer afford to book 3 films a week. The prefered method of watching movies here is to view divx encoded files on a laptop. People don't bother going to see the film because "1.) Too expensive ($2.50/ticket), 2.) too far away (5-10 min walk from dorms), and 3.) Its obsolete (Don't you know, everyone is using DLP with Dolby 6.1 Surround Sound). Nothing more depressing than spending a weekend running film for a handful of people.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 04-26-2003 03:34 PM                        I know how you feel Bob. What really pisses me off is when the universities 'help out' with the piracy by doing things like providing DNS resolution (like wake.princeton.edu) for the pirates servers.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-26-2003 04:40 PM                     I personally don't understand why people download low-rez DIVX encoded pirated films. The quality is usually so terrible it is not worth wasting 2 hours of your life watching it. My time is valuable, and if I am going to spend 2 hours of it watching a movie, I expect excellent sound and great image quality. I prefer movies on film, but DVD is not too bad a compromise for home viewing. I will not not accept anything less, even if I can download it for nothing. The low quality of the "free" crap doesn't do much to pay for that 2 hours of time.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-26-2003 05:50 PM                     This topic has been beaten to death, but the same people who accept the shitty quality of the downloaded DivX movies probably accepted the shitty quality at their local moldy shoebox multiplex at one point. People watch broadcast TV with coathangers and foil every day. As long as they can see a picture and hear sound they're happy. Trust me, I've worked with people who didn't even notice the plethora of scratches and dirt on our Free Kiddie Matinees. 'nuff said. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Bob Healey Film Handler Posts: 93 From: Milford, CT Registered: Sep 2001 posted 04-26-2003 09:17 PM                     Someone asked: "Why do people watch low-res DIVX?" The magic word here is digital. DIVX is digital, so <sarcasm> therefore playback on a 14" laptop screen with what is effectively mono sound, using the highest level of lossy compression availible is 1000% superior to the obsolete, ancient, outdated 35mm system with Dolby SR hiding in the back of a lecture hall. </sarcasm> It is also a convience factor. I can watch a film whenever I want, instead of when others decide to show it.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-27-2003 01:42 PM                     quote: therefore playback on a 14" laptop screen with what is effectively mono sound, using the highest level of lossy compression availible is 1000% superior You forgot the fact that you could bring the said laptop to class and watch the movie there. This is particularly worse in any sort of computer/programming class. I've seen someone watching Two Towers with an earpiece, occasionally glancing up at the professor. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 05-01-2003 04:11 PM                     Message deleted.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-01-2003 11:15 PM                     I ran across an old news article dated 15 October 2001 from wired.com - I don't know how reputable they are, but a few things that caught my eye is this: WASHINGTON -- Look out, music pirates: The recording industry wants the right to hack into your computer and delete your stolen MP3s. Lobbyists for the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) tried to glue this hacking-authorization amendment onto a mammoth anti-terrorism bill that Congress approved last week. Legal scholars say that the original amendment the RIAA had been shopping around to members of Congress raises privacy and security concerns. Sounds like RIAA is getting a little desperate. According to recent news, CD sales have dropped like a bowling ball filled with lead. Price and music quality appear to be a big factor. Who wants to buy a CD that has only one song that is any good, and the remaining songs are pure crap? Not me - let alone, pay $22.00 for it. From an RIAA website: "Piracy" generally refers to the illegal duplication and distribution of sound recordings. There are four specific categories of music piracy: 1. Pirate recordings are the unauthorized duplication of only the sound of legitimate recordings, as opposed to all the packaging, i.e. the original art, label, title, sequencing, combination of titles etc. This includes mixed tapes and compilation CDs featuring one or more artists. 2. Counterfeit recordings are unauthorized recordings of the prerecorded sound as well as the unauthorized duplication of original artwork, label, trademark and packaging. 3. Bootleg recordings (or underground recordings) are the unauthorized recordings of live concerts, or musical broadcasts on radio or television. 4. Online piracyis the unauthorized uploading of a copyrighted sound recording and making it available to the public, or downloading a sound recording from an Internet site, even if the recording isn't resold. Online piracy may now also include certain uses of "streaming" technologies from the Internet. No. 3....HAH! What are they gonna do, watermark the broadcasting transmitters so your recording devices will not work when you record from an FM station? The problem I see that should be rectified is pirated, counterfeit, and bootlegged recordings that are sold for a profit. I think that hurts the artist and record companies much more than a simple peer-to-peer swapping.  |  IP: Logged Bob Healey Film Handler Posts: 93 From: Milford, CT Registered: Sep 2001 posted 05-01-2003 11:28 PM                     Update on the lawsuits - they were settled by the people involved. $17K payment per student. Details (news.com) Hopefully, those search engines will stay down. Attendance has been up since the suits were announced.  |  IP: Logged

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