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Lawrence of Arabia's restoration got the 5.1 treatment with the dreaded hard center dialogue. Lawrence of Arabia ushered in the SR 70mm releases.

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Are you talking about LOA's 1989 release? This is the first time I saw this listed as a 5.1 release. And would the mag version even be considered 5.1 (unless it was a mid-90's print of 2001?)

(Steve, weren't you the one who criticized in another thread the use of the 5.1 term as a non film term used by the home vidiot crowd?)

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Most 70mm films after TOP GUN were split surround. Even films like HOFFA were split surround. Lawrence of Arabia's restoration got the 5.1 treatment with the dreaded hard center dialogue. Lawrence of Arabia ushered in the SR 70mm releases.

I am pretty sure that Temple of Doom was NOT a split surround film.

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Steve,
Lawrence in split surround, in 1989? My source for it being a single surround remix was one of the restoration producers.

My source for Temple Of Doom being a split surround mix was one of the re-recording mixers on the film. Until being told this a couple years ago I was under the impression it was a single surround mix. (Naturally, it is possible the mixer is remembering incorrectly.)

I realize you have handled many of these titles in question and have a wealth of knowledge and experience on the topic, but I will respectfully disagree with you regarding most post-Top Gun 70mm releases being in the split surround format. In looking over my list of 70mm releases I would estimate the number of single surround titles after 1986 outnumbered the split surround ones by at least a ten to one margin. Of course, my sources may be incorrect so I welcome any additional input you may have.

Back in the 1980's, there were all those cool horizontal logos that could spread across the entire stack of theater listings. I don't see that anymore. I was really disappointed to see the 70mm banners missing in the ads for the new 70mm DTS version of "Lawrence of Arabia." I would have liked something kind of like this:

It really seems like there is more pomp and circumstance going into DVD releases. There's actual specific hype about the audio and video quality with Tuesday's "Episode II" DVD release. Some similar stuff is going on with the extended cut of "Lord of the Rings" and its DTS-ES 6.1 track. Maybe Hollywood is getting more bang for their buck in advertising such technical stuff for DVD.

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I think that 70mm logo is pretty much the favorite 70mm logo of most folks (well, at least its my favortite), and unofficially considered the official logo for 70mm. Paramount first used it on "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan". I don't know if Paramount is actually the company that developed and trademarked that 70mm logo. I just call it the "Paramount 70mm logo" for shorthand. If someone knows the real trademark holder of that 70mm logo, please tell me.

Other studios developed different logos. Fox had their own logos, but they did use the Paramount style 70mm to promote "Die Hard." Many newspapers around the country had ads featuring whatever 70mm logo art was laying around and stuck it on any show. The NY and LA ads at least had some kind of a system going in relation to specific distributors.

When getting down to really picky points I should have used a different 70mm logo, mainly the one Columbia-TriStar used on its 70mm ads in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Columbia-TriStar's "official" 70mm logo has a lot of similarities to the Paramount 70mm logo. The "70mm" element is set in Antique Olive Nord and Frankensteined into the "Paramount" design. I like the "Paramount 70mm" logo more, so I used that instead. Artistic license I suppose. What do the film distributors care anyway? Most see 70mm as a dead format anyway.

I would add a GIF image showing the Columbia 70mm design. But for some odd reason, the insert image item is no longer available in the response box.

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I would add a GIF image showing the Columbia 70mm design. But for some odd reason, the insert image item is no longer available in the response box.

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I'm unaware of any U.S. 70mm screenings of Supergirl. I believe a 70 was shown at its London engagement.

I believe the following are missing from list:
Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade (1989)
Days Of Thunder (1990)
Dick Tracy (1990)
The Hunt For Red October (1990)
Alien 3 (1992)
Baraka (1992)

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My lists come from a variety of sources, including newspaper ads, Variety articles and listings, other journal articles and the lists that Dolby used to publish. Although Dolby's lists were frequently inaccurate, they tended to err by stating that something was in a better format than it was actually released in, not the other way around.

Out of the above list, I only saw Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and the Hunt for Red October in 70mm and I don't remember them being in split surround, but I could easily be incorrect.

I believe I saw Dick Tracy in CDS 70mm digital, so it's possible it did have split surround, at least in digital format.

The projector was a Vic 8. The screen was HUGE and the image was razor sharp. ET ran there, too.

The FOX Theatre in Atlanta also runs 70.

The biggest thrill for me was watching a print of OKLAHOMA! running thru the big V8 at 30 frames per at the Columbia.