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Greg Pauley
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Steve,

What's the screen size at the Senator?

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Steve Guttag
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Approximately 40 feet wide (just a tad under). It is over 20 feet tall for smaller ratios (both height and width are adjusted as needed). The procenium is the limiting factor on the picture size. The picture doesn't seem small though the way it is framed out...a very nice show indeed.

Steve

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John Pytlak
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Claude asked: "In addition to a tour of the George Eastman Museum, there was a lecture by a celebrated photographer in your theatre at the Museum. Was this,the Drydan theatre? I remember it was a good size auditorium with about 700 seats."

The Dryden Theatre was built in the early 1950's, and is part of the George Eastman House Museum. Currently equipped with a pair of Century Model C projectors, in a nitrate-certified booth:
http://www.eastman.org/
http://www.eastman.org/6_calfilm/6_index.html
http://www.eastman.org/3_histhse/3_index.html


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Peter said "Yes, the Seattle Cinerama ran both STAR WARS EP. 2 and SIGNS in digital projection."

Thats more like running something in Barf-O-Rama than Cinerama!! You guys need to take down that Cinerama sign and forget the whole thing. What a bunch of that place is! Either do film right as the place was intended or get out of the buisness.........
Mark


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Peter Kerchinsky
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Mark
Sorry that's not one of the theatres I work.
I'm a Landmark employee and we don't have any of that damn digital projection yet.
I was just sharing info from a fellow union brother who works for the AMC Cinerama.
Good night.

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Steve Guttag
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Ok...the final count...13-reels (damn I recall it being 14 once upon a time...must be that whole Brand New versus restored thingy).

Steve

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Steve Guttag
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Charles,

As to the "brand new print" being an implication that it is from original elements....sez who? Brand new print means just that...this print has not been screened to the public before. At most, there has been a QC screening. With the Brand New tag, it gives the perspective patron the feeling that it isn't faded, scratched up or spliced up. Furthermore, if it becomes scratched up and otherwise damaged, you know it happened there.

Brand New print separates it from a "recently struck print" which only implies that it isn't faded but it has been "previously enjoyed."

A "Restored Print" would imply that it was a previously struck print that had been restored with a process like photoguard. As opposed to a "Restored Version" to distingquish it from it's original release.

Then there are films like Gone With the Wind where you would have to further disclaim just what era the negatives your print was struck from since it has been recut so many times.

But for you to claim that announcing a "Brand New Print" implies that it came from the original element (or the original O-Neg) is a leap. As to Lawrence, as it is currently released, most if not all started with the O-Neg, then restored to generate a new Neg.

Now if your implication is that only a Brand New Print should come from the O-Neg, then I claim you are outright wrong. Almost no films today are shown that were struck from the O-Neg but instead are dupes. What is commonly known as "EK-Prints" are the very few that are struck from the O-Neg and used just about exclusively by the studios for their screenings. And even they have opticals and such the move the image a generation away from the O-Neg.

About the only significance I'll give you to the restoration part is that the "Restored Print" of Lawrence is longer due to some scenes that were cut from the original release. In modern terms, this is the Directors Cut. Whereas I've shown the restored version to Sir David Lean (before he passed away), I think it is a safe bet he approved.

Steve

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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About the only time one will see prints struck from the "O" negs is during dailies of a film during its shooting. The "O" negs are then locked away in a fireproof vault till they are actually cut and conformed to make the printing dupes. Many times dailies look so good you'd swear they were off of 65mm negs!
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Brad Miller
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quote:
"A "Restored Print" would imply that it was a previously struck print that had been restored with a process like photoguard. As opposed to a "Restored Version" to distingquish it from it's original release. "

I think it is more proper and less confusing to refer to those two situations this way.

restored print = rejuvenated print

restored version = restored version

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Per Hauberg
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Steve G.

Thanks for sharing the great pics. -Please come again and report about the necessity of the second dts reader and unit.

Per

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David Stambaugh
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Per said
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Thanks for sharing the great pics. -Please come again and report about the necessity of the second dts reader and unit.

That was the first question I thought of: Why 2 DTS readers? But I figured maybe that's common practice with 70mm DTS. ?? Is having 2 readers for redundancy, or is there some other reason?

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Paul Mayer
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You got it. Redundancy. Since there's no analog backup on a 70mm DTS print, two readers are recommended. The two readers can drive one or two DTS units.

Regards,

Paul

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Per Hauberg
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"The two dts readers can drive one or two dts units ????????"
Thought it should be each reader a unit to work. -Are You quite sure about this..? Two readers can't have the same offset counting and how would You then make them both sync ?

Per

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Paul Linfesty
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The Dome in LA is showing a magnetic print, BTW. Supposedly requested because they like the "warmer" sound.

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Paul Mayer
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Sorry Per, I misspoke 'er wrote. One reader can drive two DTS units with automatic switching upon failure of one unit via a failsafe board. Or, as in this case, two readers can each drive their own DTS unit.

Sorry about that, I type too fast.

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Paul

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