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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 11-15-2002 10:48 AM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Cost advantage? I think most of the cost is machining time, but white delrin is almost twice as expensive as 6061 aluminum (by volume). At this point I'm not really interested in changing the design, but I would worry that there would be annoying issues with a scriber that was hard enough to scribe the film but not damage the die.

Deburring is certainly an issue. I think the photo makes it look more burred than it really is, but I did file and deburr edges, and test them against some film...

--jhawk

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 12-12-2002 01:49 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry for the delay, things have been a bit busy here. Joe Beres asked for an update.

I decided to spend a while doing "fancy stuff" like anodizing and lettering. I'm pretty much all set on the 35mm version. this one had a slight error in that the front-side lip got milled down too far. Not a real functional problem, just a cosmetic one.

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I also started work on 16mm one. This was my first try and didn't come out so well. Aside from the obvious milling error ("Why is that chunk missing?!" [Eek!] ), the hole positions didn't come out quite right. Still, the idea of having the holes adjacent rather than alternating seems to've been fine.

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One thing I've learned from this is that I'm not particularly good at taking pictures of objects like this...sorry for the flash flare.

--jhawk

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Bill Gabel
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John

Very Nice [thumbsup]

Bill

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Steve Guttag
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 - posted 12-12-2002 03:21 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Those look real nice! You probably don't need 8 cue holes on the 16mm. Again, nice job.

Steve

PS...where is the green 70mm version.

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 12-12-2002 04:05 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Putting more than four holes would just encourage a needlessly long (and distracting) cue on the screen. I personally feel four frames (1/6 second) is overkill (although that's what's in the SMPTE standard).

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 12-12-2002 04:37 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh, sorry, I should expand more on the "experimental" nature of the 16mm one. I wasn't really intending that the finished product would have 8 holes. But since the original Clint Phares have 4 holes, one every-other frame, I decided to build one that supported adjacent holes as well as alternating holes, and see how it worked... I imagine I'll just end up
with 4 holes at the top and dead space at the bottom...

--jhawk

p.s.: I don't have any green anodizing dye...70mm is "later."

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 12-12-2002 11:24 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, a VERY nice piece of work there! Wonderful! [thumbsup]

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Joe Beres
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 - posted 12-13-2002 09:18 AM      Profile for Joe Beres   Email Joe Beres   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, I must admit that I expected good work on these, but from the looks of it, you have outdone yourself! I can't wait to try one out.

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Scott Norwood
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The samples look great, John!

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