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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from)
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 11-06-2002 02:42 AM
I like to watch the credits... I dislike be hearded out of a theatre (on the way in is bad enough).I'm willing to bet, though, that if shooting locations were listed at the start of the credits you would see FAR FEWER people stay till the end. quote: For those that consider the credits to be non-essential or not a part of the movie at all then it would be alright for the projectionist to cut it off and splice them back on at breakdown time
I don't know how many second run prints I've seen that have had the credits 'edited', where the 'projectionist' has cut the film after about 25' of titles and then cut again (usually out of frame) at the start of the Song Titles, throwing out everything in between. Like Ron MacLean has been saying about NHL hockey lately, "Do we hate it that much that we want to make it shorter?" 
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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-06-2002 09:43 AM
Just to clarify, my theatre has safe illumination in its "show" state, even if the screen were black. So patrons are safe leaving at any time. Getting their shins whacked is wishful thinking on my part. And it wasn't the patrons who wanted the music cut, it was a moment of insanity on the part of management to try to appease a mucky-muck political hack. And come on, Joe, surely you could see that the tone of my post was done half tongue-in-cheek -- the movie gods exacting retribution? And talk about misusing its and it's, here's one what I've heard PhDs, presidents of universities, keynote speakers at graduations and network news anchors, folks who should know better, miss time and time again. They pronounce "et cetera," as "EXcetera." Very embarrassing. And back on topic -- I HATE IT....when guys take 4000w xenon bulbs and install them in their headlights.
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Evans A Criswell
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 11-07-2002 01:52 PM
Or the news reporters that say,"And we'll be back .. in jest a moment."  Another thing that bugs me... Some technical friends of mine will see a movie that I haven't seen -- and I'll ask, "Was it flat or scope"? They won't know what that means, then I'll ask them if it had as aspect ratio of 1.85:1 or 2.39:1. They won't remember. It baffles me. ------------------ Evans A Criswell here
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Lionel Fouillen
Expert Film Handler

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From: Belgium
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-08-2002 05:12 AM
quote: Another thing that bugs me... Some technical friends of mine will see a movie that I haven't seen -- and I'll ask, "Was it flat or scope"? They won't know what that means, then I'll ask them if it had as aspect ratio of 1.85:1 or 2.39:1. They won't remember. It baffles me.
When I was a student I had to explain the same to a fellow student. He told me that he had never noticed the difference in formats. Then he said "Great, so it's better to see a film in a theatre then! That's what I don't like on TV: they sometimes hide the top and bottom of the picture and you get those black bars. Why do they do that? Is it some kind of censorship for copyright matters, what?". And when I went to see The Abyss in 70mm, there was a sticker "70mm" on the poster bill in the theatre shop window. I was queueing at the box office and two teens were before me. One of them told the other: "Hey look, 70 minutes! That's a short film!".
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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-11-2002 02:27 PM
Steve Kraus asked: "Where are the SMPTE enforcers with their baseball bats?"Just because Steve Guttag is a Baltimore Orioles fan, doesn't mean he carries around a baseball bat.  Remember, SMPTE Standards are voluntary. SMPTE 301M-1999 specifies Motion-Picture Film - Theater Projection Leader, Trailer and Cue Marks here SMPTE Standards The SMPTE sells master postives of the Theatrical Projection Leader specified by SMPTE 301M-1999: here SMPTE Test Materials Ideally, this master should be printed to make the BH-1866 perforated duplicate negatives that are spliced in as the leader for the original negative, and printed through onto each print. Done properly, the black sections SHOULD be black (neutral density greater than 1.95) with no extraneous "junk" in the projectable image area. Unfortunately, sometimes the leader used is not a first-generation dupe negative (i.e. a copy of a copy of a copy...) , or may not be printed to the specified dense neutrality. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: here
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Thomas Procyk
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From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 11-12-2002 12:45 PM
quote: (iii) people feeling the need to shout into their mobile 'phones at twice the normal speaking volume.
This reminds me of a skit I saw on "Trigger Happy TV" where the man answers his GIANT cellphone in the auditorium and yells into it. "HELLO??? WHAT??? I'M AT THE CINEMA!!! THE CI-NE-MA! YES!!! YOU'RE CRACKING UP, HANG ON!" As for the credits situation, I hate people that leave BEFORE the credits. Like when it's a sold-out show, and the movie is just getting to the point where you know the actors will just exchange some witty dialogue and the music will fade up as the camera pans off into the sky, and there's a handfull of morons pushing and shuffeling through the rows to get out. Are these people trying to beat the crowd out of the parking lot? If they were in such a hurry to get home, why the hell did they plan to go out in the first place? This happened when I saw "Titanic" on opening night. At the very end scene where the ship "transforms" to life after Rose goes to sleep, I was treated to the backs of six people blocking every square inch of the screen. They started to leave, then noticed there was something more, and STOOD THERE to watch it!!  I hate it when I go to see a movie with friends, all of which think I am a moron for wanting to "watch the credits", so we leave, only to find out later that there was more after the credits. Grrr. I've noticed that older movies had pretty much all the credits in the beginning. (Which I like better. It gives an "overture" to the film) Nowadays, some movies have ALL of them at the end, including the title of the movie!! (e.g. Punch Drunk Love) Is this for our senior citizen customers who must be reminded of the title of the movie they just saw even though they will continue to call it "That (actor's name) Picture"?? Credits to me are like the end of a play when the cast comes back out to take a bow. Yes, there are people that leave during that, too. My brother worked at a performing arts theater for a while and would get death threats daily because he wouldn't let people leave the theater until the cast is off the stage and the curtain closed. Apparently, people didn't care to show respect for those who just put forth an effort to perform for them. Kid of humorous when an 80-year old man is telling you he will kick your ass.  =TMP=
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