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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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I like to watch the credits... I dislike be hearded out of a theatre (on the way in is bad enough).

I'm willing to bet, though, that if shooting locations were listed at the start of the credits you would see FAR FEWER people stay till the end.

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For those that consider the credits to be non-essential or not a part of the movie at all then it would be alright for the projectionist to cut it off and splice them back on at breakdown time
I don't know how many second run prints I've seen that have had the credits 'edited', where the 'projectionist' has cut the film after about 25' of titles and then cut again (usually out of frame) at the start of the Song Titles, throwing out everything in between.


Like Ron MacLean has been saying about NHL hockey lately, "Do we hate it that much that we want to make it shorter?"


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Leo Enticknap
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...people using "it's" when it should be "its".

And also people using 'e.g.' ('exemplii gratia' = 'I give you an example') when they mean 'i.e.' ('id est' = 'that is') and vice-versa.

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 11-06-2002 09:43 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just to clarify, my theatre has safe illumination in its "show" state, even if the screen were black. So patrons are safe leaving at any time. Getting their shins whacked is wishful thinking on my part. And it wasn't the patrons who wanted the music cut, it was a moment of insanity on the part of management to try to appease a mucky-muck political hack. And come on, Joe, surely you could see that the tone of my post was done half tongue-in-cheek -- the movie gods exacting retribution?

And talk about misusing its and it's, here's one what I've heard PhDs, presidents of universities, keynote speakers at graduations and network news anchors, folks who should know better, miss time and time again. They pronounce "et cetera," as "EXcetera." Very embarrassing.

And back on topic -- I HATE IT....when guys take 4000w xenon bulbs and install them in their headlights.

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Steve Kraus
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Isn't part of the point of credit "cookies" to reward those who stay and watch them to the end? BTW, there is a cookie of sorts on the end of HP-2.


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Joe Redifer
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Maybe, maybe not. It's always hard to tell with text. That's why Film-Tech has spent 15 years designing UBB forum icons to indicate sarcasm and the such. You can find the list of icons here


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Brad Miller
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Frank, you might want to look at that list of smileys Joe pointed out. I read your post the same way he did and was amazed that you were pro-customer accidents over keeping the lights down.

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Mike Blakesley
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I hate it when people spell "definitely" wrong. The most common one is "definately." It's all over the place.

I also hate when people say "I axed him if I could...." as opposed to "asked."

And to get it back into the movie business, I hate it when people refer to the movie projector as a "camera."


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Steve Kraus
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...or build theatres where the auditoria are referred to as "Studios."

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Evans A Criswell
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Or the news reporters that say,

"And we'll be back .. in jest a moment."

Another thing that bugs me... Some technical friends of mine will see a movie that I haven't seen -- and I'll ask, "Was it flat or scope"? They won't know what that means, then I'll ask them if it had as aspect ratio of 1.85:1 or 2.39:1. They won't remember. It baffles me.


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Lionel Fouillen
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Another thing that bugs me... Some technical friends of mine will see a movie that I haven't seen -- and I'll ask, "Was it flat or scope"? They won't know what that means, then I'll ask them if it had as aspect ratio of 1.85:1 or 2.39:1. They won't remember. It baffles me.

When I was a student I had to explain the same to a fellow student. He told me that he had never noticed the difference in formats. Then he said "Great, so it's better to see a film in a theatre then! That's what I don't like on TV: they sometimes hide the top and bottom of the picture and you get those black bars. Why do they do that? Is it some kind of censorship for copyright matters, what?".

And when I went to see The Abyss in 70mm, there was a sticker "70mm" on the poster bill in the theatre shop window. I was queueing at the box office and two teens were before me. One of them told the other: "Hey look, 70 minutes! That's a short film!".


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Steve Kraus
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OK, today's hatred is directed towards leaders, head leaders in particular, whose black sections include not only framelines (good!) but a sort of frame outline that will project a white vertical line on the right side of the screen(bad!). I wouldn't mind it if it reverted to solid black for the last couple feet of the run-in section but a screening I'm running right now had it right up to the distributor's logo giving me no leeway to punch in. My solution was to use automation to give me a frame accurate start, after stupid white line but before the logo but I shouldn't have to resort to such extremes. Where are the SMPTE enforcers with their baseball bats?

Lest you think this is just a changeover house issue check out my notes about "Half Past Dead" in Feature Info. & Trailer Attachments. Dialog right on the head extending out on the leader means you either include a snippet of nasty white line leader in your platter build or you cut off dialog.

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John Pytlak
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Steve Kraus asked: "Where are the SMPTE enforcers with their baseball bats?"

Just because Steve Guttag is a Baltimore Orioles fan, doesn't mean he carries around a baseball bat.

Remember, SMPTE Standards are voluntary.

SMPTE 301M-1999 specifies Motion-Picture Film - Theater Projection Leader, Trailer and Cue Marks
here SMPTE Standards

The SMPTE sells master postives of the Theatrical Projection Leader specified by SMPTE 301M-1999:
here SMPTE Test Materials

Ideally, this master should be printed to make the BH-1866 perforated duplicate negatives that are spliced in as the leader for the original negative, and printed through onto each print. Done properly, the black sections SHOULD be black (neutral density greater than 1.95) with no extraneous "junk" in the projectable image area. Unfortunately, sometimes the leader used is not a first-generation dupe negative (i.e. a copy of a copy of a copy...) , or may not be printed to the specified dense neutrality.


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Aaron Sisemore
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>>head leaders in particular, whose black sections include not only framelines (good!) but a sort of frame outline that will project a white vertical line on the right side of the screen(bad!)<<

DeLuxe (both labs) and Technicolor NYC are the leading culprits of this madness

-Aaron

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Leo Enticknap
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I also hate when people say "I axed him if I could...." as opposed to "asked."

At least they only say it...


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Thomas Procyk
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(iii) people feeling the need to shout into their mobile 'phones at twice the normal speaking volume.

This reminds me of a skit I saw on "Trigger Happy TV" where the man answers his GIANT cellphone in the auditorium and yells into it. "HELLO??? WHAT??? I'M AT THE CINEMA!!! THE CI-NE-MA! YES!!! YOU'RE CRACKING UP, HANG ON!"

As for the credits situation, I hate people that leave BEFORE the credits. Like when it's a sold-out show, and the movie is just getting to the point where you know the actors will just exchange some witty dialogue and the music will fade up as the camera pans off into the sky, and there's a handfull of morons pushing and shuffeling through the rows to get out. Are these people trying to beat the crowd out of the parking lot? If they were in such a hurry to get home, why the hell did they plan to go out in the first place? This happened when I saw "Titanic" on opening night. At the very end scene where the ship "transforms" to life after Rose goes to sleep, I was treated to the backs of six people blocking every square inch of the screen. They started to leave, then noticed there was something more, and STOOD THERE to watch it!!

I hate it when I go to see a movie with friends, all of which think I am a moron for wanting to "watch the credits", so we leave, only to find out later that there was more after the credits. Grrr.

I've noticed that older movies had pretty much all the credits in the beginning. (Which I like better. It gives an "overture" to the film) Nowadays, some movies have ALL of them at the end, including the title of the movie!! (e.g. Punch Drunk Love) Is this for our senior citizen customers who must be reminded of the title of the movie they just saw even though they will continue to call it "That (actor's name) Picture"??

Credits to me are like the end of a play when the cast comes back out to take a bow. Yes, there are people that leave during that, too. My brother worked at a performing arts theater for a while and would get death threats daily because he wouldn't let people leave the theater until the cast is off the stage and the curtain closed. Apparently, people didn't care to show respect for those who just put forth an effort to perform for them. Kid of humorous when an 80-year old man is telling you he will kick your ass.

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