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Author Topic: US Do Not Call Registry Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-05-2003 12:26 PM                        The telemarketers are now suing to block the "do not call" list. Supposedly they say it will cut their business in half and they will lose up to $50 billion per year. OK, I have no doubt it will hurt their business, but $50 BILLION?? If that's half, it means people are buying $100 BILLION A YEAR worth of crap from these people. Who knew the scumbags were so popular? I signed up on the list, but I think a better thing would be to have a "please DO CALL list." That way, the telemarketers would have a nice clean list of suckers to call, and the rest of us wouldn't have to put up with them.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-05-2003 02:46 PM                       Good one, Mike! Heh-heh... watch 'em squirm, now! They're in panic mode. Sweet revenge, I love it!  |  IP: Logged Gerard S. Cohen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 975 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 08-05-2003 06:23 PM                     Since the national "Do Not Call" registry was announced, my email spam has doubled, and my fax spam has greatly increased. Although MSN ver 8 has had until today a perfect record of dumping ALL my spam messages in my "Junk" file, today it allowed about 15 spams into my "Inbox", all with addresses beginning with various versions of "ink-xxx." Either the MSN filter does not recognize "ink-" addresses as spam, or one time in the past, when shopping for reduced-price cartridges, I may have shifted an ink- address from junk to inbox in an earlier and less automatic MSN version. But if so, it never surfaced en-masse until today. Incidentally, some people did not recognize the "Do Not Call" confirmation messages from the Registry because, since the mailing was very large, some programs' filters treated the confirmations as spam, kicking them into "junk" folders, where they were deleted unread.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-07-2003 01:23 AM                     I do not have spam filters installed. Because of AOL's agressiveness, the amount of junk mail I receive is getting less and less. I received about 6 junk mail messages last week between my 7 AOL email addresses. As far as telemarketers are concerned, within a few seconds I ask them how they got my phone number. The answer is "they are automatically computer generated." I tell them to take that computer generated crap and stuff it where the sun never shines. It derails their schveel they are trying to pitch, and they trip all over themselves. I get very arrogant and irate with them to the point where maybe they don't want to bother me anymore. I usually get one telemarketer call between my 3 telephone numbers per week. But when I get that one call...ooooOOOOoooo!!!! I have a field day with that. I go out of my way to rip them a new butthole.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-24-2003 01:04 PM                     Update: Court Rules Against Do-Not-Call Registry ----- OKLAHOMA CITY - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national "do-not-call" list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1. U.S. District Judge Lee R. West said the main issue in the case was "whether the FTC had the authority to promulgate a national do-not-call registry. The court finds it did not." House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Billy Tauzin, R-La., and Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., said Wednesday they were confident the ruling would be overturned and believe Congress did give the FTC the necessary authority. "We will continue to monitor the situation and will take whatever legislative action is necessary to ensure consumers can stop intrusive calls from unwanted telemarketers," they said in a joint statement. Calls to the FTC were not immediately returned Wednesday. Direct Marketing Association Inc., one of the plaintiffs, said it was happy with the ruling, even though it "acknowledges the wishes of millions of U.S. consumers who have expressed their preferences not to receive telephone-marketing solicitations — as evidenced by the millions of phone numbers registered on the FTC list." The suit was filed by DMA, U.S. Security, Chartered Benefit Services Inc., Global Contact Services Inc. and InfoCision Management Corp. The telemarketing industry estimates the do-not-call list could cut its business in half, costing it up to $50 billion in sales each year. More than a dozen states with do-not-call lists planned to add their lists to the national registry this summer, the FTC said. Telemarketers would have to check the list every three months to see who doesn't want to be called. Those who call listed people could be fined up to $11,000 for each violation. ----- =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 09-24-2003 02:53 PM                        I signed up for the national do not call list back on July 2. I put in my home and cell phone numbers. It seems that was the time I started getting some telemarketing calls on my phone, and for a while I suspected that telemarketers may actually have used that list to get numbers. I had only received a couple since last november when I switched phone numbers when I went with the cable company's package deal for network/TV/phone. I had a phone number starting with a weird exchange, and for a while, that was enough. I'm getting quite a few telemarketing calls, most of which have started 2 to 3 weeks ago. I still give out my old phone number to businesses that I don't feel need it, but ask for it, and the nice thing is it's in their databases as being my number, so they'll say "Evans Criswell?" and I'll say "yup". The most likely reason for the sudden return of telemarketing calls is the availability of it in newly published directories. Google still thinks my old number is mine, and doesn't know my new one. switchboard.com doesn't find me at all! Yippee! It will be interesting to see if the calls suddenly stop on October 1.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-24-2003 03:39 PM                     I recently opened a telephone account with Vonage so I have a phone number in the (954) area code even though I don't actually reside in the U.S. Hmmm...I wonder how long before I start getting calls from telemarketers..?  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-24-2003 05:03 PM                     Here is something from the Associated Press: OKLAHOMA CITY -- A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national "do-not-call" list against telemarketers. The ruling came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who submitted their telephone numbers and said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The immediate impact of Tuesday's ruling U.S. District Judge Lee R. West was not clear. He did not immediately issue an order directing an action by the FTC. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Stricker Master Film Handler Posts: 481 From: Calumet, Mi USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 09-24-2003 07:09 PM                     We have a "do not call" list in Indiana. My telephone has been silent during the dinner hour for the past year and a half!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-25-2003 01:16 AM                        The telemarketers will lose half of their business, resulting in a loss of $50 Billion a year? Damn, at $100 Billion a year, that makes it waaaay more profitable than the movie industry. We should close down all our theaters and just call everyone and annoy them.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 09-25-2003 01:52 AM                  I'm surprised the ruling didn't come from a 3-judge panel of the 9th circuit! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-25-2003 01:53 AM                        So the FTC doesn't have the power to institute a list that people VOLUNTARILY sign up on, but they DO have the power to bully the nation's movie theatres into enforcing the ratings whether they want to or not, by threatening to shove stifling laws down our throats. Hmmmm, double standard.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-25-2003 03:13 PM                     It would figure the judge reversing this decision would come from Oklahoma. Hopefully the ruling will be overturned, especially since telemarketers over the last year or two have become a lot more aggressive. Normally they are supposed to let you go after you say "no" to their pitch more than once. Now most of them want to just argue. Yesterday, some fellow from a state trooper booster association (of of which I have never heard of before) was trying to get me to donate money to their "cause." I told the guy I didn't have a bunch of money to donate to anyone and have turned down other causes I've supported in the past. He just wouldn't let it go. The asshole started handing me some line about "you want to be sure these troopers have the support they need to help out their families--" I angrily interrupted the guy with, "I'm not even making enough money right now to afford to have a family! I realize cops and firemen might be important to our communities, but cops and firemen around here are making twice what I get paid! My health insurance premiums jumped up 43% last February on top of the 20% increase from last year. Another increase like that and I am uninsured. I don't have any fucking telemarketers calling people up to donate on the behalf of graphic artists anywhere! But I guess that's how it goes when you work a job that isn't featured in any TV shows or movies!" I finished with "don't pitch this shit to me anymore and take me off your damned calling list."  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 09-25-2003 03:19 PM                        I heard on the Radio as I was driving back to the city that the house has passed a bill authorizing the no call list to go through. It is being sent to the senate today and they will pass it. Bush has said he will sign it.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-25-2003 07:51 PM                     It would be a miracle if Bush would go through in signing a bill making the do-not-call thing a law. Voter pandering would be the only reason why he would sign it. He does more kiss-ass bullshit to businessmen at the detriment of the average American than any politician in the last 20 years. I guess he has resigned himself to being a 1-term President.  |  IP: Logged

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