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Andy Summers
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From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom
Registered: Jun 2005


 - posted 10-15-2005 10:11 PM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
Joe’

LOL, as usual you always come out with the funniest jokes, no she’s a classic 27inc, and I have no interest in a widescreen TV has I’ve seen so many including plasma TV monitors that over-scan the image big time and at £4000.00 for a 50inc there about, what a rip off, I mean is the engineer in the factory is he blind, I can see more width of films or lets say my friends with there widescreen TV one is a Panasonic the other is a Phillips, both over-scan with 2 ½ on the right and 1 ¾ on the left missing….and reading the credits on Star Wars or Lord of the Rings is just not there, if you get my meaning…

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-15-2005 10:56 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well you might want to at least think about stepping all the way up to composite video from the RF connection it looks like your TV has now. No TV that looks that old can have any sort of inputs other than RF. It looks like it was made in 1977.

Also, why are you looking at plasma TVs? This shows how uneducated you are about home theater. Get a CRT HDTV. My Sony 34XBR960 has overscan. I think with plasmas you are referring to UNDERSCAN, being able to see to the complete edge of the entire picture. Your 1977 crappy TV surly has tons of overscan. It probably has so much overscan that there is more information off of the screen than on it. With my Sony 34XBR960 I can adjust the amount of overscan if I want to (and I have). Plus widescreen TVs (even EDTVs) give you the full resolution of DVDs. Why have almost decent sound and a crappy, small picture? Upgrade to at least composite video and your picture will match your randomly placed speakers. My friend's LCD HDTV has zero overscan and no way to adjust it. If you are truly referring to overscan, then the store you saw it had probably had 4:3 video on ZOOM mode. Plasmas are fixed-pixel displays. No need for overscanning. I've never seen one that did that.

Fixed pixel TVs are for individuals who are not real people, like midgets.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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 - posted 10-15-2005 11:03 PM      Profile for Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Author's Homepage   Email Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You do realize you're not using a THX approved calibration mic cable, right?

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Andy Summers
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 - posted 10-15-2005 11:20 PM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
Daryl’
Wow let’s get this right how about “Monster Cable” err, like it’s going to make my set-up sound like an all rounder, now if I was giving some "Monster Cable" to conduct an A&B test with some affordable cable which one will win the vote, I’m going for the affordable cable, if it comes within 98% and “Monster Cable” within 99.999% I would sooner save the money on OFC so they’ve been saying….

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 10-16-2005 12:01 AM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There's some pretty decent hardware in the room.

But visually speaking it's...um, well...not quite the environment where I would want to bring a lady I've just started dating.

quote: Joe Redifer
Brad, your screening room sucks by comparison. Sorry but you lose, pal.
Brad does have an authentically decorated screening room. And a soda fountain to boot. That will impress the ladies.

Before someone jumps in with SPL techno-greek talk as a rebuttal, keep in mind commercial movie theaters do have the ancilliary function as a pleasing venue for dates to help men court women.

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Steve Guttag
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 - posted 10-16-2005 08:45 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
<flipping through some old spec sheets>

JBL 2240H driver: Frequency Range 30Hz - 2KHz

JBL 2245H driver: Frequency Range 20Hz - 2KHz

With the 2240 driver loaded into the 4518 cabinet, it is nothing more than an LF speaker for sound reinforcement.

With the 2245H, it becomes a subwoofer...load a 2245H in there and hear the real bass you are missing. Does the 2245H have foam? You bet...that is what allows it to play substantially lower than the 2240 and other non-foam surround drivers...does it rot out...you bet...after a period of time. It took 20-years for mine to rot...big deal...after a recone...it is as good as new...and still playing FLAT down to 20Hz.

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Frank Dubrois
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 - posted 10-16-2005 11:02 PM      Profile for Frank Dubrois     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How can you claim to have a THX setup? I wouldnt even have to visit your place to to tell you that. Picture would definately be a concern. BIG BIG sound, but a crappy crappy picture. Just because YOUR ok with a 27" square tube TV, doesnt make it THX. How is your lighting control? Air conditioner make any noise? You may have the sound down, but seriously, you cant truely beleive you even come close THX certifiable?!? Maybe Home Theater THX is a little more lax than theater certification, but come on...I'd walk in, see that crappy TV, and walk right out. Thats sad.

[ 10-17-2005, 11:13 AM: Message edited by: Frank Dubrois ]

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William Hooper
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 - posted 10-17-2005 03:01 AM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Bobby Henderson
But visually speaking it's...um, well...not quite the environment where I would want to bring a lady I've just started dating.
Needs urns.

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 10-17-2005 11:38 AM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank, good job pissing all over Andy. Do you have any hobbies that you'd like to share with us so we can take turns trashing you in return? Oops, I mean, trash your hobbies. If we trash you, that would be a personal attack.

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Andy Summers
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 - posted 10-17-2005 02:13 PM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
Frank’

Interesting point you made there, and the applies some of the professional commercial cinemas in my home town, one called the “Regent centre” single screen, claming there THX come on they don’t even have the “THX 3417” or the newer “THX D-20” crossover, as for the sound there it’s too reverberant, and to make things worse the ODEON Westover Road claming to be full six-track Dolby when in fact they haven’t got any, sub bass speakers placed behind the screen, and those “Altec A4” are just generation so much audible distortion it’s indescribable last film I saw there was “Batman Begins in full dts distortion.”

ABC Westover Road screen #1 well they like bragging there the best sub standard cinema in the area, oh, and forgetting UCI for whom I worked for many years ago, they like publishing there the crème de la crème, you only have to look at form the outside, and say to yourself looks like a “Wet Fish cinema.”

Now you have got of on the wrong foot with, but I don’t mind, I’m clam and most of all cool about the personal attack, sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me….

Now on to a pleasanter note, just finished checking out,”John Carpenter’s” “Escape from New York” on region 2 DVD fantastic six-track Dolby Stereo mix with dts accompanied with it, though I prefer “Dolby” for playback did an A&B test with my Laserdisc special edition, I noted the audio commentary with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell” was the same, except for commentary by “Joe Alves” and the late “Debra Hill” who passed away a few months ago, though the commentary was recorded some time in 2003.

“Escape from New York” has been realised on region 2 DVD before, to some disappointment lacking six-track Dolby mix, I think it was scope 2.35:1, anyway this is close to what the die hard Carpenter fans wanted, which includes the deleted bank heist wow.

The playback in my home theatre was kick depth and though there’s very little action with some slam in the mix, it still presents such a complex “Dolby” mix by re-recorded mixers “Gregg Landaker” “Steve Maslow” and “Bill Varney” both of which worked on The Empire Strikes Back” and won an Oscar for sound, will there artist talents shows hear with this superb mix of creating an urban “New York” city.

Lots of low end on the LFE sub bass track, which supports the helicopters and addition effects as well as music in parts of the film the Lucasfilm THX kept harshness to a minimum timber matching was smooth as always while the THX peak manager kept LFE under control even though played at 0db reference level, bass from the three-screen and some nice body punches in the centre towards the end with “Snake” and “The Duke of New York”, LOL A number one, “Donald Pleasence” was a scream as the president….

Anyway next film will be “Batman Begins” in THX at this home theatre next week, and that opening score, looking forward to that…..with SPL in 105db three-screen and 110dbc on the LFE....
[Smile] [Wink] [Cool] [thumbsup] [Big Grin]

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Frank Dubrois
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 - posted 10-17-2005 05:20 PM      Profile for Frank Dubrois     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
David,

You like to stir the pot don't you? Just shut the hell up. I did not personally attack him. I am quite impressed with the sound set up, however, as other people have noted, that TV is very out of place.

Andy,

Let me rephase my comment so idiots like DAVE can more clearly understand....I realize that by making my statement more clear, he won't have anything to complain about, but here it goes:

VERY nice audio set-up, I bet it rocks. That TV is a bit out of place, why not invest a little more into picture quality so you can have a truely awesome audio/video experience.

Andy: [beer] no hard feelings I hope, I didnt mean anything but it.

David: [fu]

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 10-17-2005 05:36 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Feel free to use this thread to discuss Andy's setup, but please keep the personal comments to yourselves or private email. See the forum rules if this is not clear.

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 10-17-2005 05:37 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
You like to stir the pot don't you? Just shut the hell up. I did not personally attack him.(snip) [fu]
Whoa! Um, dude, you basically chimed in repeating what I wrote, but not choosing your words very carefully. I tried not to be insulting to Andy in the way I chose my words. But I strongly disagree with your notion that someone is an "idiot" if he took your post to be insulting.

And then you turn around and really flame the living hell out of David. I think he was on the money with his response, but that's just my opinion.

Also, keep in mind this is a moderated forum. Corrosive flaming may invite one of the moderators to get involved in a manner you may not like.

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Andy Summers
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 - posted 10-17-2005 05:46 PM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
Frank’

Sorry this has got of the wrong foot, maybe David was just kidding around, maybe?

Well it’s down to cost, frank’ and though I have set my eye on a front video projection system, I’m thinking at this moment should I go into this shop and see it working, and if I’m happy with what I see, I may just place a deposit on it seeing it’s £599.00 and though it’s not got DLP Texas technologies on it LCD well do just fine.

Yes anything to get a possible 7 foot wide screen in the room, giving the projection throw, will be at 14 feet I’m guessing 7 foot maybe less…

As for the sound, it does not just rock, it slams kicks rumbles and with deep abyssal depths of unrelenting pressure, given the type of Dolby or dts mix which I run exclusively on Laserdisc, given the higher bit rate over DVD, I’m not knocking the dts on DVD it’s range is good, but in general most dts DVD’s that I’ve encountered are negotiable.

Take “Saving Private Ryan” now the dts mix on that is very impressive, over the Dolby mix, dual version sound on special edition DVD.

Now going back to Video projection, if I do buy it, I’ll still be keeping the “SONY” multi standard monitor, as running a video projector all the time, light bulb life will be against me, but I’ll be looking into that, and looking for ways to maybe modify it to run an affordable halogen light source.

[beer]

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-17-2005 08:07 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Andy Summers
it does not just rock, it slams kicks rumbles and with deep abyssal depths of unrelenting pressure
If this is the case, how do you keep your LaserDiscs from skipping? On my system I can rattle doors visably on the other side of the house, but DVDs have a buffer so they don't skip.

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