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Anslem Rayburn
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The OTHER consequence of poor water management:
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If a state cannot cope with the water or power useage requirements of it's citizens, it needs to re-evaluate it's priorities. I PAY for my water and electric. If I want to take a 45 minute shower or run my A/C at 75 everyday, and am willing to pay the amount they charge to do so, I should have that right. This planet is covered in water, and oil companies make a killing every year. Why should I be the one to compromise mycomfort for them?

"Turn off AC on hot days"? So only use my AC when it's already cool outside? If it's hot, turn off the one device in my home that is supposed to make it easier to live? California, and any other state that believes that is a rational request, can go to Hell, and see what it's like at 120*, like it was here in Yuma, Arizona last week, without AC.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Carl Martin
hey mark-- what are you doing in the 510?
Am here to raid Dolby's warehouse [Eek!] . OK, I'm here to go see an Okland A's game.... [Big Grin] Ok again... I'm really here to attend the D-Cinema seminar [Cool] .

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Randy Stankey
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People living in warmer climates need to insulate their houses better. Insulation keeps the he heat OUT of your house in summer just the same way it keeps the heat IN during winter.

When I lived in North Carolina I saw so many buildings that were only lightly insulated because the climate is warm. Just think how much energy would be saved if they insulated better.

We insulate refrigerators to keep the cold in and the heat out. Don't we?

And another thing. Start using fans to compliment air conditioning. Exhaust the heat OUT of the house before you try to put cold air in. It will take a LOT of load off the A/C system if you do.

A fan, blowing out, in an upstairs window (or better yet, the attic) will cool the house by 10-20 degrees minimum. That's 10 degrees less cooling for your A/C to work. The energy savings in your A/C system will be MORE than offset by the energy used up by one or two fans!

Hey! And, look at it THIS way! People buying more fans will help the economy! Right!? [Roll Eyes]

The government has a terminal case of "Recto-Cranial Inversion"!

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Mike Heenan
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I talked to my mom last night who's out in Palos Verdes taking care of my Grandma, and she went to 4 or 5 stores, and they were all out of floor fans, ouch. And my grandma's house doesn't have AC working either. A local Target sold out of the fans in the sunday ad within hours I heard.

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Andy Muirhead
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You thinks that's bad? I have a 'second' home in Ireland, on an island with 170 residents during winter and 300+ in summer.

I have to pay the mainland council rate for Power, Water and Roads.

The power for the island is supplied by a diesel generator with shaky voltages, run too many appliances at one time and you can notice your lighting dip. I pay the same rate as mainlanders who get their power from the national grid. I've wised up and use a UPS for the sensitive PC equipment, but not before that unstable current screwed some of it up.

The water I pay for, I cannot drink. It's fine for washing etc, but drinking water must come from a well, which is a good 1/2 mile trek. The roads I pay for are not really roads but potholed tracks, which are filled in every few years, and quickly disintegrate.

It's bizarre paying the same rates for sub standard services, but then again, That's island life and thats the least of the problems.

I refuse to get a phone installed - the island has a microwave system and the best connection to internet can be had at 22kbs. Yet it costs the same as a regular phone line.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Andy Muirhead
The water I pay for, I cannot drink. It's fine for washing etc, but drinking water must come from a well, which is a good 1/2 mile trek. The roads I pay for are not really roads but potholed tracks, which are filled in every few years, and quickly disintegrate.
You might as well move to Botswana... You can have all those same great amenities and not have to pay all that $$ for them. IN addition you might own the only car in the whole country and you'd be one popular dude [thumbsup] .

Mark

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Dustin Mitchell
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As far as California water usage goes, you guys are already using all your available fresh water and then some. Doesn't the Hoover Dam resevor supply some of California's water?

If you want to pay for desalination plants be my guest. There damn well better not be any federal money going to that nonesense though unless its truly needed.

In any event, the power problems in California are largely systemic and will take years to fix. The power distribution system is very out of date. Its being worked on; journeymen linemen from all over the country are in California working long hours to perfrom these upgrades. Even when they're not doing 'trouble calls' (storm damage repair) they'll often put in 24-32 in straight and then have 8 hours off. I just talked to my mother who's out in Cali visiting my step dad who's a lineman working out there right now and he's been at work since Monday night.

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Richard Hamilton
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quote: Anslem Rayburn
If a state cannot cope with the water or power useage requirements of it's citizens, it needs to re-evaluate it's priorities. I PAY for my water and electric. If I want to take a 45 minute shower or run my A/C at 75 everyday, and am willing to pay the amount they charge to do so, I should have that right.
I pay for a lot of shit! If you go to a movie and demand that you want a coke, even though they are out of Coke syrup, do you still get it? I am curious, do you pay for your 45 minute shower before or after you take it?

I talked to a good friend of mine from Danville CA today very briefly, because he is running on a generator and cannot stay online long. Because people are running their AC all the time and taking 45 minute showers. He said it is DOWN to 112 degrees there.

Later, Rick

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Mike Heenan
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Rick, shut up and get back to the other thread posting naked pictures of Chinese girls, mkay? [Wink]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Richard Hamilton
I talked to a good friend of mine from Danville CA today very briefly, because he is running on a generator and cannot stay online long. Because people are running their AC all the time and taking 45 minute showers. He said it is DOWN to 112 degrees there.
I agree with Mike... Rick... Go post more naked photos. Your friend chooses to live there and as a result he has to put up with all its problems. He also has the choice to move elsewhere where those problems don't exist. It's his choice really... I'm not sympathetic to crybabies.

Mark

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Richard Hamilton
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Mark, are you calling me a crybaby? I was just stating a fact. I am trying to do some business from halfway around the world and some assholes think that their 45 minute shower is more important than conserving power! You seem to have an opinion about everything that doesn't really concern you.

This lag in communication between me and my friend cost me a few thousand dollars.

As far as naked pics go? Have I posted 1 yet? I don't think so.

Later

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Anslem Rayburn
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quote: Richard Hamilton
I am trying to do some business from halfway around the world and some assholes think that their 45 minute shower is more important than conserving power! You seem to have an opinion about everything that doesn't really concern you.
Well,since I'm the one that posted about the 45 minute shower thing, [fu] .

My point was simply that if multi-billion dollar companies are selling power and collecting huge amounts of money for it, they should quit telling their paying customers how much of their product to use and when to use it. If they can't meet demand, they should fix their supply problem rather than putting their problems off on the consumer.

And how the hell do you assume you have more right to an opinion on this topic than anyone else. I didn't realize that the universe had suddenly started revolving around you and your business ventures.

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Richard Hamilton
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quote: Anslem Rayburn
My point was simply that if multi-billion dollar companies are selling power and collecting huge amounts of money for it, they should quit telling their paying customers how much of their product to use and when to use it.
I thought the State was telling them not to use it. I think the point is that no one should abuse it when there is a shortage.

quote: Anslem Rayburn
And how the hell do you assume you have more right to an opinion on this topic than anyone else. I didn't realize that the universe had suddenly started revolving around you and your business ventures.
What the fuck does that mean? I assume I have more of a right than you? Did I ever imply that? Sorry if I am pissed off that your 45 minute showers cost me money, but I speak my mind.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Richard Hamilton
Mark, are you calling me a crybaby?
Yes! Thats very apparent.

quote: Richard Hamilton
You seem to have an opinion about everything that doesn't really concern you.
Richard, If you post that sort of stuff here expect opinions from anybody and everybody!

Mark

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Anslem Rayburn
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quote: Richard Hamilton
You seem to have an opinion about everything that doesn't really concern you.
Posting this after you made your opinion known certainly makes it sound like you think you have the right to post an opinion while others may not.

quote: Richard Hamilton
I think the point is that no one should abuse it when there is a shortage.
And I think the point is that the companies that are selling electricity should be able to meet demand, thus eliminating the shortage. Our power company here is putting everything in motion to install more power plants before we actually need them, so that we don't end up in the situation California is in. Crazy idea, isn't it?!?

quote: Richard Hamilton
Sorry if I am pissed off that your 45 minute showers cost me money, but I speak my mind.
As do I. I don't take 45 minute showers, or run my AC at 75. I only stated that since I am paying for the bill, I should have the freedom to do so if I want, without having anybody from the powers that be telling me not to.


And how would my water and electric use cost you anything? I pay my bill, I don't live anywhere near your friend in California, I don't live anywhere near where you are in China.

quote: Richard Hamilton
I pay for a lot of shit! If you go to a movie and demand that you want a coke, even though they are out of Coke syrup, do you still get it? I am curious, do you pay for your 45 minute shower before or after you take it?
If the theater were out of Coke, I'd be pissed and question their management abilities. They should be meeting their demand, not punishing their customers for their shortcomings. I pay for my shower after I take it. It's a little agreement that I have the water company. I use some for a month, then I pay for it. They seem okay with the arrangement, and I don't see what that has to do with anything.

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