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Author Topic: State of California says: turn off AC on hot days Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 07-27-2006 03:05 AM                        Fortunatly, it's things like this that makes me want to look for self sufficentcy. While where I live, it'd be near impossible to setu up full, self sufficency, I could, say, run off of roof mounted solar panels mostly, and at night, or for overflow, run from the city's service. Solar panels are expensive, which is why I haven't done it yet, but I plan to ass soon as I can. Likewise, I want to look into an electric conversion kit for a car. That way I can buy a car that is in good condition, except for a blown engine, for probably cheap due to the blown engine. Pull the engine and put in the kit. That way for short trips, such as to/from work/store, I wouldn't have to worry about the gas prices. Wouldn't go on vacation in it tho, limited range. There again, something that I have to save up for.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-27-2006 03:44 AM                        I point in California's general direction an laugh at it and the people who live there. Your problems do amuse me so! [ 07-27-2006, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: Joe Redifer ]  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 07-27-2006 09:25 AM                        Locally (Kentucky) power is plentiful, but deferred maintenance (anyone work for any large circuit, here) has meant that split poles, tree trimming, etc are not resolved. Any wind or heavy rain and we are down for hours, days, weeks. I finally gave up and installed a 40KW propane generator with automatic cutover. All upscale new homes now come that way. Louis  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-27-2006 06:34 PM                     BTW, when I spoke of the electric suppliers feeding Calf. faking shortages I was refering to these suppliers all shutting down plants "for maintaince" at the same time, and then claiming shortages, and raising rates. This was proven in court, and the companies had to pay fines for their hoax.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 07-28-2006 08:52 AM                        For those from other places: so many people live in California, and there are so few resources (power & water) that most of the states in the western half of the US export resources to keep CA afloat. California now feels "entitled" to the existing situation. I assure you that if I lived in these exporting states, and felt a need to develop economically, I would cut Calif. off without a prayer.Louis  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-28-2006 05:24 PM                        If it's any consolation, Central London got hit by power cuts, too yesterday. Sounds like consumers tried to turn on more fans, fridges and a/c units than there was electricity to power - simple as that.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-28-2006 10:19 PM                        John: I thought sodium bi-carb was used to assist in balancing pH.? BTW, How do you people who set your T-Stat at 75+ deal with it? With an avg. humididty level of %75+, I'd be shriveled up to nothing and divorced to boot. I have mine set at 72 all the time. The last few days... it won't get below 74 in the house anyway.. at least during the daylight. At night, It'll get to 70 or below if set so.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-28-2006 10:45 PM                     I use fans to boost the air conditioning's efficiency. Blow the heat out of the upstairs rooms/attic so the central air doesn't have to work so hard. The fan has a built in thermostat. It kicks on when the temperature goes above 75º. The air conditioning in my house turns on for the first time some time around 12:00 - 1:00 PM each day. It runs intermittently throughout the day until about 5:00 - 6:00 PM. If it's extra hot outside, it will run one or two more times during the night but, by midnight, it's done for the day. We can reverse the fans upstairs to blow in relatively cool night air, then set them to blow out again in the morning. The temperature in the upstairs bedroom never goes above 80º even when it's 90º+ outside at high noon. Like I said before. It's not WHETHER you use air conditioning and fans. It's HOW you use it.  |  IP: Logged Mark Hajducki Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Edinburgh, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 07-29-2006 05:18 PM                     The behavior demonstrated regarding the usage of shared resources (electricity, water etc.) has been described as The tragedy of the commons. If any one person uses more than their share of resources it is likely that there will be enough supply, however if everybody (or at least a majority) uses more than their share the resources will not be able to cope. This is made worse by the fact that it is rational for people to use more resources, because they will gain from doing so (economically or , in comfort etc.) whilst only depleting the supply slightly (although the cumulative effect may be great). [ 05-09-2008, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: Mark Hajducki ]  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-31-2006 11:20 AM                        quote: Jason Black John: I thought sodium bi-carb was used to assist in balancing pH.? Sodium Bi-Carbonate can be used, but usually Sodium Carbonate is used: MSDS for Tabex pH Up http://www.answers.com/topic/sodium-carbonate quote: sodium carbonate, chemical compound, Na2CO3, soluble in water and very slightly soluble in alcohol. Pure sodium carbonate is a white, odorless powder that absorbs moisture from the air, has an alkaline taste, and forms a strongly alkaline water solution. It is one of the most basic industrial chemicals. Sodium carbonate decahydrate, Na2CO3·10H2O, is a colorless, transparent crystalline compound commonly called sal soda or washing soda. Because seaweed ashes were an early source of sodium carbonate, it is often called soda ash or, simply, soda.  |  IP: Logged

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