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Claude S. Ayakawa
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The original STAR WARS film opened at two theatres in Honolulu on June 8, 1977 at Consolidated Cinerama and the Kapiolani. The Kapiolani engagement was not very long. Both theatres ran the movie in 35mm mono because neither was set up for Dolby yet. After the Kapiolani's showings ended, the Cinerama had a exclusive for the rest of it's run in Hawaii which was over a year. After the film played in 35mm for several months, Dolby Stereo was installed at the Cinerama and STAR WARS continued it run at this theatre in 70mm and 6 track stereo in early October.

Because Honolulu's engagement was in 35mm in the beginning, I decided to hold off seeing it until i was in San Francisco on my way home from a national professional photographers convention in Chicago. I had planned to see it at the Coronet in 70mm in the bay area but by a stroke of luck, the first time I got to see STAR WARS was in the grand ball room at the Hyatt Regency O'Hare in Rosemont, Illinois late one evening during the conventIon. It was a 35mm mono showing on a very large scope screen and I was very impressed with the presentation, I did get to see it again in 70mm at the Coronet as planned but because of jet lag, I slept through most of it.. When I returned to Honolulu, I saw it twice at the Cinerama in 35mm and again in 70mm.

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Sam Graham
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I saw it with my father December 25, 1977 at the Coliseum Theater in Ketchikan, Alaska (operated to this day by the ironically named "Gross Alaska Theaters"). It took that long for them to finally get a print.

I had long since been completely sucked into the hype. I'd read the book based on the movie and had a number of different Star Wars accessories, including a package of "blue prints" of the ships that I'm sure is worth bajillions to collectors today. So actually getting to watch the movie was really just completing the visuals. I could pretty much recite the script word-for-word at the time.

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Anslem Rayburn
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I was born in 1977, but I'm a little bit older than Star Wars. I remember seeing Star Trek III: The Search for Spock in 1984 at a drive-in in Yuma (double feature with C.H.U.D.). It was around that same time that I saw Star Wars on TV. It blew my mind, but it's not that significant later. I remember Goonies and Monster Squad more. Goonies is a great film, and so is Monster Squad (coming out on DVD next month). Star Wars was more of an "that looks cool" type of thing. I'm ready to let it go. Lucas' best works are WILLOW and HOWARD THE DUCK...

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Anslem Rayburn
I remember seeing Star Trek III: The Search for Spock in 1984 at a drive-in in Yuma (double feature with C.H.U.D.).
Could that have been the Crest Drive-In? It was along US-80 just north of the Marine Corps Air Station. That road isn't even US-80 anymore, just business loop I-8 (US-80 now ends in Dallas). We watched Jaws at the Crest Drive-In at a price of $2 per car load. 30+ years of ticket price inflation makes the box office haul of today's "hits" a load of crap. They need to count actual tickets sold to truly determine the most watched movies of all time. Anyway...

I forgot to mention in my previous post how members of the Star Wars crew stayed in Yuma, AZ hotels during parts of the film's production. Some of the Tatooine scenes were shot in the sand dunes just west of Yuma. That added to the local buzz for the opening of Star Wars. Sadly it didn't play in Yuma before my father had to report to his next Marine Corps duty station.

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Michael Schaffer
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IIRC, Star Wars came to Germany the following year, in February of 1978 (not sure if that's correct though), and by that time, it already was massively anticipated because everyone knew what a big hit it was in America. It was much more interesting back then because all you got to see were pictures and a few brief clips on TV, the trailer (which I remember wasn't all that long either), unlike today where you get bombarded with adds and clips and overlong trailers which give most of the movie away.

I first saw the movie which in Germany was called "Krieg der Sterne" (literally, "The War of the Stars") a few months after the opening in Berlin's biggest theater, the "Royal Palast", in 70mm. The opening title read "Es war einmal in ferner Zukunft" - "Once upon a time in the far future" instead of what the original means - later they changed that to a more literal translation.

Oddly, even though I was only 10 and didn't know much about technical stuff, I remember it said "in 70mm 6-channel magnetic sound" in a yellow band across one corner of the marquee. That theater had what was advertised as "the biggest screen in Europe". It closed a few years ago, like so many other big movie palaces.

I clearly remember the slight hiss of the magnetic sound system coming on just before the main feature began, and the effect of the space ships (and the sound) coming from the back. The movie left a very big impression on me, and I saw it many times that summer and the following years.

I still remember how pissed off I was when it finally left that theater (after a very long engagement) and was replaced by "Convoy". Which I never watched, but I haven't forgiven Kris Kristoffersen to this day.
But it came back after 2 years or so, again in 70mm.

I don't remember when and where I first watched "The Empire Strikes Back". But I clearly remember I was in London when "The Return of the Jedi" started, on the same day as in the US, and I saw it at the "Odeon Marble Arch", another huge screen which has since then closed, in 70mm, on the third or fouth day.

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Here's where it opened (From my retrospective article May 25, 1977: A Day Long Remembered):
What I found interesting in that article is that "The Spy Who Loved Me" only opened in 200 theaters while stuff like "Orca" and "The Deep" opened in 700-800 theaters (no doubt because they hoped that scary movies with monsters in the sea would make a "Jaws" effect). But I thought Bond movies were already a really big thing then.

quote: Bobby Henderson
I forgot to mention in my previous post how members of the Star Wars crew stayed in Yuma, AZ hotels during parts of the film's production. Some of the Tatooine scenes were shot in the sand dunes just west of Yuma.
Wasn't that for "Return of the Jedi", not "Star Wars"?

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Anslem Rayburn
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Could that have been the Crest Drive-In? It was along US-80 just north of the Marine Corps Air Station.
Yep. My earliest movie-going memory.

quote: Michael Schaffer
Wasn't that for "Return of the Jedi", not "Star Wars"?
I don't know if "Star Wars" was filmed here at all, but I do know that "Return of the Jedi" definitely was. My mom was a maid at the Stardust. That land now is home to a Fry's grocery store. I remember her talking about some of the cast, though not all of them stayed there. There always seemed to be somebody staying at that hotel back in the 80's, whether it was a movie being shot here or nearby or a sports team like the San Diego Padres or Yakult Swallows (both of which held their spring training here, and neither of which do any longer).

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Tim Reed
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I thought all the sand dune stuff was shot in Tunisia?

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Michael Coate
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The majority of the Tatooine exteriors for "Star Wars" were shot in Tunisia. Pick-up shots were done in Death Valley, CA.

For "Return Of The Jedi," a few shots of R2-D2 and C-3PO walking toward Jabba's palace and the Sail Barge/Skiff battle exteriors were shot in the (coincidentally-named) Imperial Sand Dunes near Yuma, AZ. I have a photocopy of a large article published in the Yuma newspaper around the time of the release of "Jedi" that detailed the production that took place there. The codename for the production at the time to divert attention was "Blue Harvest."

The shooting schedules for the "Star Wars" films were published in various books which allow one to know on which date, location, stage number, etc. where each scene was shot.

The company returned to Tunisia for Tatooine exteriors featured in the prequel trilogy (and for the Egyptian and Mediterranean island exteriors featured in "Raiders Of The Lost Ark"). The final scene of "Episode III" where Obi-Wan hands over Luke to Owen and Beru, I believe, was shot during the production of "Episode II."

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Michael Coate
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quote: Michael Schaffer
IIRC, Star Wars came to Germany the following year, in February of 1978 (not sure if that's correct though)
Your recollection is correct. "Star Wars" premiered in (West) Germany on Feb. 9, 1978.

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Christian Appelt
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I saw it (dubbed and titled KRIEG DER STERNE, as Michael already noted) at the Frankfurt MGM theatre (later ROYAL theatre) in a 70mm print and on a deep curved screen. Being only 11 years old, I was thrilled by the impact of space fight scenes on the Cinerama type screen. Today, I know that this fascination had to do with the fact that at that time I had seen none of the classics from GUNGA DIN to LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, no classic pirate movie and few other genre classics, so what Mr Lucas had stitched together and coated with some Castanaeda philosophy looked entirely new to me.

Today, I prefer THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, and when I saw STAR WARS: SE in 1997 on the same screen (only with bad color, unsharp prints and overblown sound and CGI effects), I decided never to spend money on a Lucas movie again.

Back then, it was great.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Michael Coate
The majority of the Tatooine exteriors for "Star Wars" were shot in Tunisia. Pick-up shots were done in Death Valley, CA.
The flat and barren areas were Tunisia -which was the scenery for most of the Tatooine shots. The dunes where R2D2 and C3PO first land on Tatooine are the Imperial Sand Dunes outside Yuma. The scenes where R2D2 get captured by the Jawas is in Death Valley National Monument.

A number of other movies have been filmed in the sand dunes west of Yuma. Much of March or Die (1977, starring Gene Hackman) was one I knew about when I was just a kid. Other movies like Dune, Stargate, Jarhead and the original version of Flight of the Phoenix had scenes filmed there as well.

The Imperial Sand Dunes is a popular location because the dunes are impressive. There's not a lot of mountains and other scenery on the horizon so the location can function in sort of generic terms. It doubles for Middle East locations all the time. Finally, those dunes are not too far from Hollywood.

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Mike Blakesley
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Dammit, you assholes ruined it for me. I always thought those scenes were filmed on the real Tatooine.
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Steve Guttag
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HBO is running all 6 episodes in HD this week.

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David Kilderry
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Star Wars was a few weeks into its run when I saw it in late 1977 here in Melbourne, Australia. It was in 70mm in Hoyts Cinema Centre One. This triple opened in 1969 with three screens all just below 1,000 seats. It closed last year.

I remember my dad buying the tickets very early on Saturday morning and we went wandering around the city until start time. The first scenes were just so impressive; they changed the way I looked at movies forever.

I even remember where we were sitting. Years later I worked at the same theatre as projectionist and would often sit in the same seats. It was a great film to see with a thousand others and a large curved 70mm screen.

It was the first film to transport me completely, an experience I look for in ever film I see, yet it happens only a few times per year.

David

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Michael Coate
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quote: Bobby Henderson
The dunes where R2D2 and C3PO first land on Tatooine are the Imperial Sand Dunes outside Yuma. The scenes where R2D2 get captured by the Jawas is in Death Valley National Monument.

Bullshit.

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