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Author Topic: Happy 30th, Star Wars!
Paul Linfesty
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quote: Michael Coate
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So here's the challenge: can a discussion take place here with a focus on recollections of seeing "Star Wars" for the first time back in its original 1977-78 release? In other words, is it possible to discuss the original film and '77/'78 timeframe without drifting to any discussion of what "Star Wars" became over the course of thirty years?
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No. Such is the nature of forums. Also, it's probably impossible to divorce oneself completely from what one saw 30 years ago and the influence and reshaping that 30 years time of new memories and experiences affect our past reflections (if not the specific facts then at least our emotions interpretations of said facts).

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Louis Bornwasser
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Oops! Sorry guys. Louis

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Joe Redifer
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Don't worry about it. You stayed pretty much on topic, and threads go off-topic all the time. So has anyone here seen Batman Begins?

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Michael Coate
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quote: Paul Linfesty
No. Such is the nature of forums.
In other words, it's too much to ask for grown, educated adults to follow directions!!

quote: Paul Linfesty
Also, it's probably impossible to divorce oneself completely from what one saw 30 years ago and the influence and reshaping that 30 years time of new memories and experiences affect our past reflections (if not the specific facts then at least our emotions interpretations of said facts).
Hmmm. Is that why you haven't posted your recollection of seeing "Star Wars" back in '77?

And, like many of your postings from the last year or so, I find the timing suspicious.

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Mike Heenan
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quote: Teh Coate
In other words, it's too much to ask for grown, educated adults to follow directions!!
quote: The Coate
The company returned to Tunisia for Tatooine exteriors featured in the prequel trilogy (and for the Egyptian and Mediterranean island exteriors featured in "Raiders Of The Lost Ark"). The final scene of "Episode III" where Obi-Wan hands over Luke to Owen and Beru, I believe, was shot during the production of "Episode II."
Interesting Coate... since you're the first one in the thread to bring the prequel trilogy into light (considering no one mentioned them at all during the posts before yours that I can see and your facts of the prequel locations have no bearing on the current discussion at hand).

PS... anyone have a good recipe for nachos?

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Darryl Spicer
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Before the special edition's came out you could get Star Wars, Empire and Jedi all three together for special charity screenings if your theatre was equiped with THX. We did it at the theatre I was working at back in 1993.

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Mike Blakesley
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Our 75th anniv. was in 2005, when Episode III was still in release, so I thought we could play all six, maybe one per week or one per day for a week, or whatever. Maybe they'll loosen up a bit by 2010.

Back to recollections. The first SW movie I actually projected was "The Empire Strikes Back," which we played only six months after it opened. Ah, the good(?) old days.

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Frank Dubrois
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quote:
In other words, it's too much to ask for grown, educated adults to follow directions!!
...and make shure you speel everthin curectly.

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Paul Linfesty
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quote: Michael Coate
And, like many of your postings from the last year or so, I find the timing suspicious.

And how is that, exactly? I answered the same day you posted. Would it have been better timing if I posted a response a week from now? A month? A year?

quote: Michael Coate
Hmmm. Is that why you haven't posted your recollection of seeing "Star Wars" back in '77?
A problem I've had with posting anything you ask for is your (apparent) need to use it as a weapon to demonstrate your superior research skills against our poor memories and then rubbing it in our faces at how stupid we all are.

But, here goes. I saw STAR WARS 4 times over three days the first week of August, 1977.
Tuesday, 10am: Plitt Century Plaza (followed by 1pm showing of 2001 at the Dome "Before Star Wars, there was, and will always be..."
Wed, 10am: Avco Center I
Thurs, 10am: Plitt Century Plaza
Thurs (yep! same day) 5:25pm: Mann Chinese (showed a standard academy format 35mm preview of THE WORLD'S GREATEST LOVER with a custom-made tag saying it was coming to the Vogue.)

Best Sound: Plitt
Best Projection: Chinese (although projectionist forgot a changeover and let the film run out and face a bright white screen for about 15 seconds)
Avco had mediocre projection AND sound.
A week later, I saw it in 35mm Dolby Stereo at the Piedmont Theatre in Oakland.
Wednesday, 10am:

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In other words, it's too much to ask for grown, educated adults to follow directions!!

You mean directions like those you would e-mail me with to get me to post things here in film-tech just to stir up things, and then when I still wouldn't do it on the second request, so you e-mailed me again a third time and said that you shouldn't have to ask me twice to follow your instructions?

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Monte L Fullmer
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My personal glory with all of the Star Wars Episodes:

June - 1977 EP-IV
June - 1980 EP-V
May - 1983 EP-VI
May - 1999 EP-I
May - 2002 EP-II
May - 2005 EP-III

I ran the opening show of all of these six episodes

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...Monte

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Michael Coate
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quote: Paul Linfesty
And how is that, exactly? I answered the same day you posted.
No, you didn’t. You posted the same day I quoted myself! (I originally posted seven days ago. Why didn’t you post then???)

Lately, you are contributing nothing useful to these discussions, instead camping out on the sidelines just waiting for an opportune moment to chime in with a post meant to make me look bad. (The locked Academy screening thread comes to mind. As does last year’s Woodstock discussion. Or how 'bout the comic book thing? Or the Carmike digital installations?)


quote: Paul Linfesty
A problem I've had with posting anything you ask for is your (apparent) need to use it as a weapon to demonstrate your superior research skills against our poor memories and then rubbing it in our faces at how stupid we all are.
Stop being so dramatic. It’s not my fault that research techniques and relying on memory are incompatible with one another.

I think this issue is more about you than it is me. As much as I hate to claim it, others in offline correspondence have suggested to me that you’re just jealous...and I’m inclined to agree. And instead of supporting me (given your own interest in many of the same topics as myself) it appears to be much easier to attack and criticize and sabotage my attempts to obtain information or enjoy the time I’m spending online. You also appear to be mistaken over my numerous instances where I’ve posted information in a given thread for the sake of sharing it with others or to clarify a point. If such postings appear to put others down then, more often than not, that is an unfortunate side effect of the Internet forum concept and its dependence on words only.

quote: Paul Linfesty
You mean directions like those you would e-mail me with to get me to post things here in film-tech just to stir up things, and then when I still wouldn't do it on the second request, so you e-mailed me again a third time and said that you shouldn't have to ask me twice to follow your instructions?
My posts are not intended to stir things up. My goal, often, is to hope for an informative and ongoing discussion (and who wouldn’t want that). As such, I’ve often encouraged others (including you on occasion) to participate if I thought they had something useful to contribute or if I thought they might be able to help squeeze a bit more life out of a topic. The situation you seem hung up on appears to be that two-year-old “what sound format was such and such in” discussion and, frankly, from my perspective, you sabotaged that thread and are misrepresenting here what occurred. As for asking you multiple times, next time simply respond to the first request (even if only to politely decline) and no further requests need follow.

Paul, it’s unfortunate that our communication has deteriorated to the point where we antagonize one another. You seem hell bent on seeing to it that I receive some sort of comeuppance. Worth noting is that you’ve ignored my e-mail requests to settle any conflict that seems to exist. I used to enjoy our communication (which dates back nearly ten years for those not aware there is a history between Paul and I) and I find it annoying to observe how things have developed. Also worth mentioning here, I think, so other film-tech members can understand there’s more to this story than meets the eye, is that your name appears in the acknowledgements of many of my articles. Hmmm. These days I sense much resentment from you (and others)...and it’s disappointing and annoying that my reaction needs to play out publicly.

In fact, Paul, I’m so annoyed with you right now, that, aside from wanting to delete the thanks I gave you in some articles, you make me want to consider hopping in my car and driving to dreadful Bakersfield just to give you a swift kick in the nuts.

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Mike Blakesley
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Where's Heenan when we need a good [sleep] ?

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Mike Pennell
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How about another Mike from Arizona: [sleep]

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Mike Heenan
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Here we go.... Mike #3's [sleep]

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Joe Redifer
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Dudes, you're upsetting Coate (who is a former research editor for Letterbox Review). In respect for that fine publication, I will get back on topic:

I highly doubt I saw Star Wars the day it opened since I was 3 years old, but I know I saw it during its initial release because I am at least somewhat old. I remember having a record (those weird black discs made of hard oil or something that required a freakin' NEEDLE to be placed on them to obtain the sound) which had a ton of audio from the movie... not just the music but the dialog as well. This record enabled me to memorize the movie much more so than the movie itself did.

I also remember when Empire came out, a friend who went to the same babysitter after school as I did saw it before I was able. He claimed that Luke landed his X-wing in a puddle. I told him that he was full of bullshit and that I hoped his mom would soon get chlamydia on her face since there was no way Luke could have landed in a puddle, and it must have been a lake or a swamp instead. He still insisted it was a puddle. That made me mad.

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