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Paul Mayer
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Vertigo in 70mm coming again to the Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood, CA Sunday 24 May 2015 at 7:30pm PDT.

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2001 returns to the Cinerama Dome tonight at 7:30, in 70mm of course.

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Leo Enticknap
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The Vertigo, Baraka, West Side Story and Lawrence prints that we seem to get every couple of months or so are now really starting to show their age and mileage, sadly.

I'm hoping that our programmers will mix things up a bit soon and book some of the 70mm DTS titles that don't seem to have been shown much at all recently, e.g. South Pacific, The Bible or Magnificent Men. Even our regulars must be getting bored with these shows. I know I am - I can almost remember the changeover scenes of all the reels of all four movies!

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Grand Prix, The Work and the Glory and Lord Jim are all 70mm DTS titles that are worthy of an audience. And hopefully The Master, Inherent Vice and Interstellar can be added to the rotation.

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The Vertigo, Baraka, West Side Story and Lawrence prints that we seem to get every couple of months or so are now really starting to show their age and mileage, sadly.
Most of the good projectionists with real 70mm experience are retired. It only takes one playdate with one guy handling the print to inflict that damage. This is of no surprise and unfortunately there are too many theaters popping up that got an old 3570 projector and suddenly think they are experts at handling 70mm prints. This reminds me all too much of that one day Alamo training seminar thing on 35mm last year, as if someone attending that will suddenly be worthy of handling archive prints. One day is a joke, and actually insulting to real projectionists.

The result is exactly this, the wearing of the last surviving 70mm prints. Soon when a 70mm print is shown to a younger crowd they will look at it and laugh because of all the operator damage.

Handled properly these prints should not wear at all, but that's not what I knew would happen. 70mm as we remember it is dangerously close to dead.

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quote: Daniel Schulz
And hopefully The Master, Inherent Vice and Interstellar can be added to the rotation.
I'm going to risk being flamed here by opining that judged as movies (script, acting, direction, art direction, music etc.), they're all pretentious, plodding, vastly overhyped on their initial release, met a mainly lukewarm critical reception and would probably be quickly and permanently forgotten if it weren't for the 70mm aspect. All of them have some beautiful cinematography, art direction and costumes in places, which is why the large format does them justice. But now that they're in the second run/rep circuit, anybody booking those movies is going to have to accept that the 70mm geeks will show up to see them, but virtually no-one else. Lord Jim is also a tough sell - it never really achieved the "corny but essential classic" status of Lawrence (despite a lot of the same talent being involved), and even its star (Peter O'Toole) admitted that the movie didn't really work. It's not exactly feel-good family matinee fodder, either! South Pacific, The Bible, Magnificent Men, Cleopatra, My Fair Lady and Dr. Dolittle would at least be a draw for the wider public, and apart from occasional outings at places like the Bradford festival, have barely been shown since the launch of their restorations.

As for Brad's observation, just wait until The Hateful Eight appears! Although BLSI are going to be installing the 70mm stuff in the 100 venues that will be showing the prints on their release day, presumably they're not going to be putting their own projectionists in to operate the entire run. Which means that an existing employee of these places, possibly someone with no film handling experience whatsoever (if the venue went digital several years ago and its last proper projectionists have left), is going to be running a 5/70 platter installation, presumably after a one-day crash course.

And after the run is done, there will be dozens of new venues proudly proclaiming that they can now show 70mm, and trying to get their hands on the remaining prints of other titles... [Eek!]

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quote: Leo Enticknap
Which means that an existing employee of these places, possibly someone with no film handling experience whatsoever (if the venue went digital several years ago and its last proper projectionists have left), is going to be running a 5/70 platter installation, presumably after a one-day crash course.
That is correct. Quentin's movie will unfortunately almost single-handedly be murdering the future of film and specifically the 70mm format with this release because it's TOO big...such that it will FORCE people even worse than the concession-projectionists of years past to run them. Never in the history of 70mm will so many prints be shredded at the theaters so fast as this one. [Frown]

I was actually approached about making one final run of platter safety rings. I can't imagine a Tarantino-length 70mm print being run without them, but ultimately my bet is Weinstein will have to understand the need for them and pony up the bucks. Weinstein should also pony up the bucks to have Kelmar make some 70mm cleaners and send out some FilmGuard to prevent wraps and scratches, but again that's a dollar thing.

If I was coordinating it, I would have the installers build the prints and do a test screening before they left each site. It's one thing to ask people, most of which will have never ran any gauge of film before, to keep re-threading, but to ask them to also assemble the 70mm prints? Oh boy. It's not as if Kelmar couldn't make a 70mm clamp to put around the print that had a padlock hole on it so the installer could lock it up and then release the combination to the theater the day prior to the opening.

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The Hollywood Theatre (the old Cinerama Theatre in Portland OR) will be showing the VistaVision 70mm blow up of Vertigo on Friday July 17 2015 on a semi curved screen. Let's hope they book more 70mm prints in the future. If It sells out they may book a few more showings.

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Wexner Center in Columbus, Ohio, will screen a 70mm restored road show print of It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World on July 10-11.

And screen Tron on August 28-29.

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> will screen a 70mm restored road show print of It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World

Unlikely, as no 70mm prints were ever struck of the supposedly restored "road show" edition. Original "road show" prints, if any still existed, would be faded and have a non-linear anamorphic squeeze to allow for the deeply curved Cinerama screen. The 70mm print that is currently circulating is a 70mm blowup of the regular 35mm version with the intermission re-inserted along with the intermission radio calls.

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Are you sure on that one? The AFI has shown, at least twice, a relatively newly struck UP70 version of the movie. I can't claim that it is a roadshow cut of the movie but I don't think it is a blow up either.

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No, I am not sure that the currently circulating 70mm print is a blow up, but I am certain that it is NOT the long lost road show version, or even the supposedly reconstructed road show version on the Criterion Bluray.

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quote: Louis Bornwasser
"Far & Away" was pretty bad.....until the land rush scenes....Bruce Surtees, Jr. Every bit as good as Lawrence.
Those Land Rush Scenes were filmed about 2 miles from where I
Live. Those Cameras didn't look like Super-Panavision Cameras
but I wasn't paying that much attention to all of them either.
Couple looked like Standard 35mm Panavisions... Film was Pretty Lame; Howard
didn't even have the Final Title when Filming in Billings, Script was still calling it "The Irish Story"

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The "Mad World" print shown at the Cinerama Dome in September 2012 was UP70. You can see the 1.25 squeeze below. They played the radio calls during the intermission, but I don't know if they were on the print or from a non-sync source.

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