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Author Topic: Upcoming 70mm Screenings Brian D. Whitish Expert Film Handler Posts: 103 From: Seattle, WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-05-2008 11:58 PM                     Quite a few minor base side scratches. And when reel 2 started there was a green "spot" on the bottom left. Almost like it got sprocketed. Like I mentioned I left halfway into reel two when it appeared the sound problem was not going to be fixed. It could be given a B grade I suppose. I wonder if it was the same print that played at the Cinerama Dome last week? Brian  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-06-2008 05:51 PM                     I'm curious why an "original print in B condition" was obtained for this run, as the film had at least two and possibly three new 70mm prints struck back in '01. Hope to God they weren't trashed already. Anyone?  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 02-06-2008 06:43 PM                     There is some discussion regarding the recent Seattle and Los Angeles screenings of "2001" over at Cinema Treasures on their CINERAMA DOME page. Someone posting under the name of Rizzo seems to have all the details. (I suspect Rizzo may be an alias for one of Pacific's employees.) The discussion appears between the posting dates of Jan. 3 and Feb. 2, with the most detailed post being Rizzo's from Jan. 27, 11:51am. And while you're there, keep scrolling down and enjoy the Dome's playdate history that I recently posted.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-06-2008 08:16 PM                     Don't fel bad the print that was in circulation before these were struck had a damagnetized last reel! SOmeone had apparently set a screwdriver or other tool on top of the mag at some point... made a thump every revolution of the platter. I suspect that only "B" Grade 70mm prints remain in circulation at this point in time. The same is probably true of most other titles as well. Mark  |  IP: Logged Sean Weitzel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall) Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-08-2008 01:02 PM                     A few months ago, the Castro in SF ran a 70mm festival. I would have to say that the 70mm titles I saw: Patton, Brainstorm, and Starman were grade A prints. Flawless and beautiful. I've also seen the "Tron" print that was struck about 10 years ago and it remains in very good to excellent condition.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-08-2008 03:00 PM                        I ran Starman in 70mm back in 2004 and believe that it was the same print that Sean saw at the Castro. It was indeed mint and most leaders and tails were uncut. At the time, I was told that it was an archive print. It was from the original release. I believe that Patton is a recent reissue with a DTS track that requires a DTS special venue system to play properly. I'm sorry to hear that 2001 was botched at the Seattle Cinerama. I hope that they didn't damage the print there. I saw it in 2001 at the Uptown in DC and it looked and sounded great. I also saw it a year or two later at Coolidge Corner near Boston and it also looked good, although it was not as impressive on the smaller, flat screen.  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 02-08-2008 06:45 PM                     The Cinema Treasures discussion is interesting as it also brings up the issue of showing 70mm prints on 140 degree Cinerama screens...although people may like the very deep curve, it was not designed for single-strip presentation, hence one gets a lot of image distortion. Interesting (and very welcome) to see that Seattle realised this and were able to have a second screen designed for regular 70mm and 35mm material. BTW who does re-sounding for 70mm in the US at the moment?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-08-2008 08:54 PM                     Brian, The deep curve and 2001 discussions go back forever. The fact remains, the PREMIER for the film was on a deep-curve, Cinerama, screen (The Uptown in DC). Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-08-2008 11:20 PM                     No one any longer to my knowledge. Mag striping and sounding are done out of the country. Mark  |  IP: Logged Brian Guckian Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 594 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Apr 2003 posted 02-10-2008 02:42 PM                     Thanks Steve, Mark for that information. I wasn't aware that 2001 had premiered on a true Cinerama screen, so for me that opens up a whole new area of enquiry regarding use of the deep curve. Also useful to know that sounding must now be done outside the US.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-10-2008 04:21 PM                     I don't think sounding needs to be done outside of the US but striping might. Last I heard there was a facility in CA that could stripe but I can't confirm that. The folks that restored Oklahoma! told me they had it striped in Europe. Steve  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-11-2008 04:48 PM                     The reason for striping mag outside of the US are rules the EPA has setup.  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 02-11-2008 06:08 PM                     I believe AMERICAN FILM & TAPE out of Chatsworth (or Canoga Park), California was/is the last company in the U.S. to handle mag striping.  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 02-12-2008 12:33 AM                     quote: Brian Guckian I wasn't aware that 2001 had premiered on a true Cinerama screen, so for me that opens up a whole new area of enquiry regarding use of the deep curve. What is the magic number (degree) that defines a deeply curved screen? 100 degree curve? 120? 140? I ask because I'm under the impression that the majority of the original reserved-seat engagements of "2001: A Space Odyssey" were in theaters with a deeply curved screen.  |  IP: Logged Bernard Tonks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-12-2008 03:55 AM                     quote: Brian Guckian I wasn't aware that 2001 had premiered on a true Cinerama screen, so for me that opens up a whole new area of enquiry regarding use of the deep curve. 2001 was presented at the Casino Cinerama in London on the deeply curved screen with a special 70mm print and lens for Cinerama. A pair of Philips (Kinoton) DP 70's were installed to replace the 3 strip Cinerama. The film however had its first premiere run in normal 70mm at the Empire Theatre, Leicester Square.  |  IP: Logged

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