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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 12-16-2007 07:01 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And we don't get a Joe Redifer Video Production re-creation of the disaster???? Joe, I'm very disappointed....but I am glad you are ok.

My first accident was in 1973 when some old fart fell asleep behind the wheel and went through a red light. I was driving the TV service truck at the time and he hit me in the right front corner and we spun around in the intersection.... kinda like Jake and Elwood in that scene in Blues Brothers... it broke my watch too! Well... the van was totaled and so was the sleepin guys car, actually they were now one mass of mangled metal... they took him away in an ambulance and I never heard how bad he was hurt... it took two tow trucks to pull em apart before they could be hauled away. I haven't had any accidents since that one...

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Phil Hill
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Gosh Joe, I'm glad you're OK. Car crashes are NO fun...I know from personal experience. I had one in 1976 ...none since then...knock on wood! [Smile]

I was driving to work at Panavision and at the last second, some dumbass cement truck-driver crossed into my lane and I hit him. My wife was in the passenger seat and 9 months pregnant. We were both wearing seat belts...no shoulder belts back then.

My car was totaled and the next day my youngest daughter was born... go figure! [Smile]

I hope you catch the sorry ass that ran..he DOES deserve a beating today! [Smile]

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 12-16-2007 07:35 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm glad to hear that not everyone has been in zillions upon zillions of accidents (though Leo seems to have had a definite run of bad luck). I hadn't had any since 1973 or '76 either! Hopefully I can go back to not getting in to wrecks.

Tomorrow is "deal with insurance" day. Fortunately I'm fully covered, but I'd still rather the other people pay. I'll post updates on all that hopefully tomorrow.

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
And we don't get a Joe Redifer Video Production re-creation of the disaster???? Joe, I'm very disappointed.
I had to work with the time constraints and limited source material available at the time. I apologize for the crudity of the image in the first post in this thread. If I had felt better I probably would have made it in 3D and at least stereo, but I did what I could. [Smile]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Joe Redifer
I apologize for the crudity of the image in the first post in this thread.
Sounds like you're channeling "Doc" from Back to the Future. Are you sure you're OK? [Wink]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Geez... I almost forgot... I met up with the side of a Mel Brooks Movie Production Truck when he was filming Robin Hood Men In Tights... This actually happened right in the middle of Hollywood... I was in a vehicle that I had rented in Las Vegas and had driven down to Hollywood. I drove it around Hollywood for a couple of days after the collision and then back to the rental place in Vegas. I filled out the necessary damage report and walked away from it completely and never heard another thing. Although the side of the vehicle was pretty well damaged and the side view mirror hanging by a thread. I had taken the full coverage out on the rental. I always have ever since that happened... Who's fault was it.... I always said 50/50... the lane I was in ran out and Mel's truck failed to yield the right of way to me.... Obviously he didn't see me there.

So that makes two for me...

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Randy Stankey
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Your first accident is always the worst. [Wink]

By the time you've had two or three of them, you'll just get out of the car, kick the fender and say, "Aw, fuck..." [Roll Eyes]

Okay... Seriously...

Glad you're okay!

I don't know what the laws are in your state but, here in Pennsyltucky, if you're caught without insurance it's an automatic loss of your driver's license. If you are in an at-fault accident without insurance you could end up in jail. And, in rare cases, if you are in an at-fault accident without insurance and there is a death or life threatening injury, you could POSSIBLY end up getting charged with vehicular homicide! (Again, rare but possible.)

If you were 100% NOT AT FAULT, your insurance company should just pay the cost. Then THEY will go after the other driver for the cost of repayment.

I gather you've already gone to the hospital and documented EVERY LAST scratch and bruise on your body. Right? Be sure to let your legal representative know about your loss of sleep, lack of appetite, loss of transportation to work, your pain and suffering and any mental distress you have had. You're probably not the type of person who would nickel and dime the court system for every penny you can weasel out of them... BUT you DO want to make sure that every last marble goes on YOUR side of the scale when it comes to weighing out justice. You can bet that, if a person doesn't have insurance, they will be the type who tries to weasel out of responsibility in court too. Every chit you can place against them is another chance that you'll both get what you deserve.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Randy Stankey
If you were 100% NOT AT FAULT, your insurance company should just pay the cost. Then THEY will go after the other driver for the cost of repayment.
OK, but is there a potential issue around no-claims bonuses that Joe needs to look out for?

I don't know what the situation is in the US, but here you earn a 'no claims bonus' for every full year you're insured and no claim is made against you, with the result that your premium goes down a bit each year (a lot for the first five years, then a little bit thereafter). Assuming you have fully comprehensive insurance (as distinct from a cheaper third party only or third party, fire and theft policy, which doesn't cover accident damage to your own car, only the other person's if the accident was your fault), you're totally covered for any damage, but unless your insurance company successfully recovers the money from the third party's, the accident is deemed to have been your fault for insurance purposes.

That's what happened to me in Middlesbrough: even though the accident was clearly the third party's fault and I had photos to prove it, because the other car had false number plates and the police could never trace its occupants, they couldn't recover the money from the third party, so the claim went on my policy and I lost my NCB.

Insurance companies will want to do this if it saves them hassle. If the third party gets a clever lawyer on board, alleges you were doing something stupid (e.g. using a mobile phone), and especially if they have a passenger(s) in the car who are prepared to lie for them, your insurance company will probably want to cut the hassle and legal costs, settle it as 50/50 and you lose your NCB. It's especially bad news if you're driving alone and the other car has more than one person in it, for obvious reasons.

I heard one horror story in which a colleague's husband was rear-ended at traffic lights by a drunk driver. An open-and-shut case, you'd have thought... until the guilty party's insurance company had my friend's car examined, and discovered that one of its tyres was about 0.001 nanometres below the legal minimum tread depth. They then reported this to my friend's insurer, who declared the comprehensive cover invalid, because the small print in the policy stated that the car had to have fully legal tyres on it at the time of the accident in order for the policy to be valid. He then ended up having to cut a deal with the third party's insurer, which ended up being far less than his car was worth.

Given that the other driver did a runner in Joe's accident, I'd have thought that this was as open-and-shut a case as there could ever be ... but in my experience, beware of insurers wanting to take the easiest (for them) way out.

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Frank Angel
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Joe -- you are a very lucky man....well, lucky that you are not hurt, but no so much that you have 14yr olds mashing into your car and having to have it put to sleep. [Frown] Really glad you are ok, bro. And glad to see your famous sense of humor hilarious as ever, still in tact; surely that's a good sign.

And yes, that damn film loop in your brain which seems to be stuck in replay will bother you for awhile, especially whenever you have a free minute to think, so just keep busy, tell yourself dirty jokes, etc. That, and time, usually will make it fade. Traumatic stuff like this take much longer to become "the past." But it will. Here's to making it a distant memory! [beer]

Now make them buy you a new car.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Joe Redifer
if I had left 30 seconds sooner or later...
Joe, sorry to hear about this. Sometimes, as much as you try to compensate for other's mistakes on the road, they just come out and strike you anyway. There's no preventing or avoiding all scenarios. One kook decides to end it all by cutting in front of you at the last minute head-on. It will happen.

Everyone gets the "If I'd waited 2 seconds more at that last light..." thoughts. Yes, but also if you'd waited 2 seconds more somewhere the day before, or someplace last year, you would've been in a wreck that you've already avoided.

Now, go strangulate that little bastard! [Mad]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Frank Angel
that damn film loop in your brain which seems to be stuck in replay will bother you for awhile, especially whenever you have a free minute to think, so just keep busy, tell yourself dirty jokes, etc.
And here's a great excuse to download some internet porn! [Big Grin]

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Evans A Criswell
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Wow. Yesterday, I nearly had the opposite thing happen to me. I had a protected left turn arrow and was turning left and a car came up the road and ran the red light. I cleared the intersection and thought, "that car never slowed down" as it went through the intersection at around 40 MPH. If I'd been a second or two slower starting off, the car would have hit me. Luckily, the people turning behind me didn't get hit by it. It would have been nearly head-on if one had gotten hit.

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Peter David Bruce
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So sorry to hear of your accident. Youve been really lucky. My best friend was in a crash last year caused by a minor in another car. they were going in different directions on their respective lanes when last second the driver pulls into my friends lane, and as she locked up to brake she skid sideways and the other driver ploughed into the drivers side of her car.

I was waiting with her in the hospital for weeks when she was in hospital.... She was in a coma, and had severe blood clotting to her brain. [Frown]

She survived! And although she looks different and doesnt have the same bounce in her step - shes just the same girl ive known. Maybe a little wiser from the experience too. She still occasionally suffers from epileptic fits but shes working through those. [Smile]

The other driver? got off scott free. Not right. He wasnt injured in anyway - not that i would ever wish hurt onto anyone else, but still. My friend just had her 18th birthday last month. [Smile] [Smile]

Joe - youre lucky, but i know how frightening and depressing an incident like this can be for you. Sorry about your civic too - my bro used to have one of those '03 models and now has the new typer civic. its his whole world...

best wishes joe, and take it easy for a bit... thats quite an event, and healing takes time. Thats physical, and mental healing. good luck mate.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Frank Angel
tell yourself dirty jokes, etc.
I guess it's time to dig out one of my old "Truly Tasteless Jokes" paperbacks from the 80s!

quote: Tim Reed
Yes, but also if you'd waited 2 seconds more somewhere the day before, or someplace last year, you would've been in a wreck that you've already avoided.
Yes, all a possibility. But still, I've realized that 30 seconds one way or another would have done much with stoplights being what they are. It won't matter until I get that time machine completed, but until then I'll just have to deal with "what happened, happened". It's kind of stopped being scary as I've gotten used to it. I still wouldn't want to do it again nor would I wish it on anyone else, though.

Peter, sorry to hear about your friend. If I were that minor and I got off scot free, that would probably make me feel even more guilty about the whole thing. It would be one of those things in my life that I'd always be trying to make up for. But then again that minor isn't me, so he probably just went out and partied.

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Randy Stankey
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Your friend should buy a copy of "Red Asphalt" on DVD and send it to that little prick for a Christmas present!

http://www.pegasusdrivingschool.com/scare.htm?gclid=COChzb2asZACFQKkHgodJlJeGg

There are enough versions of that movie that she could send a different one every year for about the next 6 years!

[evil]

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Christopher Crouch
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Glad to hear you are ok.

I had my first accident when I was 16, a week after obtaining my license; the brakes failed on my car and I ran in to a tree. Roughly a month later, I had my second accident; lost control on an icy road and ran in to a tree. About a year after that, I was hit by a drunk driver, spun off the road, and...you guessed it, hit a tree. I haven't had an accident since then (going on about 20 years now). Luck or the fact that I moved to an urban area with few trees?

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