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Tim Reed
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'The hottest band in the world: KISS', became big when I was a sophomore in high school. At the time, I couldn't understand their appeal, but I grew to like them several years later. Note how most of their songs, however, were only one or two lines repeated over and over. It sold.

KISS definitely had the best act - and the best marketing.

Anyone remember Gene Simmons acting debut (sans KISS persona) as the heavy in RUNAWAY, with Tom Selleck (1984)? He gave an exceptional performance in that picture.

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Yeah, but the robot beat him for most human performance at the Sci-Fi Oscars.

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Brad Miller
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If it wasn't for KISS, that classic movie Detroit Rock City would have never been made. That alone makes KISS the better band.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Mike Heenan
KISS "discovered" Aerosmith
I'm not sure what you mean by this - Aerosmith was around four or five years before the first Kiss album came out.

I actually thought Kiss was just a fluke loser act until I saw them in concert. That was back in the day when I would go to any concert, just to go to a concert. I was blown away by their showmanship and became a fan at that point. I still don't own any of their albums but their hits are decent party rock.

Aerosmith is the opposite for me - their music is better, so I have some of their albums, but I've never seen them live. However, I did go to a corporate party once at the Disney/MGM Studios, where we got to ride the Rock'n'Roller Coaster (and the Tower of Terror) as much as we wanted. That was cooler than all of the music from both bands.

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Mike Heenan
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Well I remember an article with Gene saying that Aerosmith used to open for KISS back when they first started up, so that's why I used discovered in quotes, as Gene made it seem like they were responsible for bringing Aerosmith out.

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Actually, Kiss and Aerosmith started out around the same time. However, Aerosmith was having a hard time getting noticed and by Kiss's second album in 74 Kiss was headlining and Aerosmith was opening for them off and on for a couple of tours until 75 when Aerosmiths popularity grew large enough to headline their own tours.

Speaking of the Kissology DVD vol 2. I thought it was real funny how in the commentary the guy talking, an actor or something from the Attack of the Phantom of the park movie went on and on about Anthony Zerby and his concentration while walking down a side walk in a scene from the movie.

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Michael Wheable
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Just got to see the "Paul Lynde Halloween Special" and along with the "Phantom" film, good band in that period but they couldn't have chosen worse TV shows to promote themselves

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Darryl Spicer
Actually, Kiss and Aerosmith started out around the same time.
Aerosmith was formed in 1970, and Kiss in 1973 - according to Wikipedia anyway.

A lot of people do think Aerosmith started just before the time they had their first hit, "Dream On," although that song was recorded several years before it actually became a hit.

There's yet another whole group of younger people who think Aerosmith started out with the hit "Dude Looks like a Lady," since the group had been off the charts (and presumed by some to be long gone) for a few years at that time. I remember a couple of teenagers in the store who were astonished to learn there was a whole group of albums that came before that hit.

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quote:
Well I remember an article with Gene saying that Aerosmith used to open for KISS back when they first started up,
Simmons takes credit for lots of things - some of which he may have actually been responsible for. I heard somewhere he copywrited OJ as a reference to orange juice, so he gets money when people say OJ on tv. It was something close to that, anyway. I know he used to take credit for inventing the "devil horns" hand sign that is a mainstay in metal, even though everyone know that was all Dio.

Kiss did a disco album once. That pretty much permanently voided their man cards. It's like trying to decide what's worse between cod liver oil and clam juice...

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I don't like too many KISS songs. I found maybe 2 or 3 of their hits fun, but that's it. Aerosmith have sucked since the 90s big time, and Armageddon song and everything after that was their nadir. But they were great in their prime.
Aerosmith over KISS easily.

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quote: Chad Souder
so he gets money when people say OJ on tv
<sniiiiiff!> This just *smells* like urban legend. How would he get money from this? Just speaking of something that is copyrighted, does not automatically manufacture cash.

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Aerosmith is better IMO, and the makers of Guitar Hero seem to agree as the latest installment of Guitar Hero is not titled IV but simply Aerosmith. All the music is Aerosmith, or bands that toured with and influenced them.

I like both bands though. I could think of lots of them that are worse than KISS.

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quote: Chad Souder
Kiss did a disco album once.
No, they did a disco single, "I Was Made for Lovin' You." The rest of that album, DYNASTY, was pretty much standard Kiss fare (although admittedly more pop-oriented at times).

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Mike Heenan
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That's one of their better songs I think, and one of the more popular ones I believe. Hey, if KISS can "go disco", we can't blame Aerosmith for "going rap" with Walk this Way. Nothing wrong with a little change here and there.

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Chad Souder
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The difference is, RUN DMC redid Walk This Way, "featuring Aerosmith" pretty much on their own, so you can't give Aerosmith much credit (or blame) for the finished product, other than their consent. Much like Anthrax redid "Bring The Noise" and then Public Enemy bought into the idea before laying down their own vocals. This, by the way, still stands as the best rap/metal song ever.

Kiss, on the other hand, made (at best) a disco-influenced album to make a buck when disco was the hot music of the day.

I agree with you Mike that a little change can be good. The Beatles (best band ever) changed their style almost every album. I just think disco sucks.

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