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Topic: Who is worse: Aerosmith or KISS?
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Chad Souder
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From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 08-06-2009 07:13 PM
OK, maybe I should just rephrase to say they shouldn't try moving around so much. When a James Hetfield burns his hand or a Layne Stayley breaks his foot, it's cool because they're younger rock stars and it's like a battle scar for them. When Steven Tyler does it now, it makes me think of Castro or some other senior falling where you think they may have really hurt themselves. Tyler having to use a wheelchair for his next show wouldn't be nearly as cool as when Staley did the same.
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Ronnie James Dio seems to disagree. I've seen some vids of him performing in the last couple years and he sounded fantastic, especially considering that he's 67 now!
Dio, like Ozzy, Mick Jagger, Pete Townshend, etc., etc., is a shell of his former self on stage. They all still may sound pretty good, but the pure energy they brought to the concert is severely diminished. Dio was the man back in the day. It's just not believable that he or any of those others are the crazy rockers anymore. I respect their ability to take the stage and do the show, but it's kind of a sad for me to see wrinkly old men trying to recapture what they did 30 years ago. Recently I saw a Twisted Sister concert covered on TV. Now, I used to love Dee Snider and having listened to his radio show quite a bit, I think he has a tremendous knowledge of music and is a well-spoken, classy individual. That being said, when he puts the old makeup and costume on, it's laughable. I guess there are people willing to pay, though, which is another issue.
quote: Mike Blakesley
That song put Run-DMC on the map and put Aerosmith back on the map. If not for it, Run and co. would have been forever on the fringes and Aerosmith probably would have been dead before they got into rehab.
Depends on the map to which you are referring. Run-D.M.C. was already enjoying success in the hip hop scene and worked with Rick Rubin on the album featuring Walk This Way. True, that single shot them onto the mainstream pop map, but they were already considered influential by then.
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Chris Slycord
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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
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posted 08-06-2009 07:52 PM
quote: Chad Souder
Dio, like Ozzy, Mick Jagger, Pete Townshend, etc., etc., is a shell of his former self on stage. They all still may sound pretty good, but the pure energy they brought to the concert is severely diminished. Dio was the man back in the day. It's just not believable that he or any of those others are the crazy rockers anymore.
Perhaps he's not a "crazy rocker" but I think that this shows that even at 65 he had quite a bit of energy put into the set. On the other hand, they've tuned the song down for him but I still think it sounds great all things considered.
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Chad Souder
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posted 08-07-2009 01:11 AM
quote: Mike Blakesley
There's a big difference though between being "influential in the hip-hop world" and selling millions of records to John Q Public.
That's why I said it depends on the map. Many would consider two gold albums pretty darn good, which is what Run-D.M.C. had before Walk This Way was released as a single.
quote: Mike Blakesley
Why should they be criticized for doing what they love when there are lots of people still willing to pay big bucks to see them?
I'm certainly not criticizing them for cashing in on a revitalized money train, a train that was once derailed by Nirvana et al. People are willing to come buy tickets to see the same movies made over and over again, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised they buy tickets to see 20 or 30 year old songs performed. I understand the nostalgic value for some fans, but I wouldn't want to see Hank Aaron stand in the batter's box or Joe Frazier step in a ring now either. It would be depressing. I want to remember them as history does - in their prime, top of their game. It would be different for a different type of performer like a James Taylor or a Dolly Parton or a B.B. King. You didn't bang your head and pump your fist listening to them.
If I did go out of my way and spend some money to see an aging act perform old hits, it would be Iron Maiden. Bruce Dickinson is arguably the best rock front man ever.
quote: Chris Slycord
Perhaps he's not a "crazy rocker" but I think that this shows that even at 65 he had quite a bit of energy put into the set. On the other hand, they've tuned the song down for him but I still think it sounds great all things considered.
Dio can still definitely sing. I was surprised that they didn't reform as Black Sabbath. Apparently Tony Iommi was OK with using the name after kicking out Ozzy, but now wants to distinguish between the Ozzy band and the Dio band? Whatever works I guess.
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