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Mark Gulbrandsen
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They could tear down Major League Baseball and I wouldn't give a hoot. It isn't what it was even when I was a kid... Golf is much more the gentlemans sport and doesn't require any steroids. Golfers have to be winners to make the big bucks... they don't just sign a contract on the dotted line!

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Stephen Furley
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Shea Stadium is also going. I don't know who plays there, or what sport they play, but I know that it's being replaced by a new stadium. Wasn't it only built in fairly recent times, 1960s?

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Shea Stadium is where the NY Mets play, FYI.

quote: Allison Parsons
If Wrigley Field is ever tore down and rebuilt 2 blocks away, I'm becoming a Cardinals fan in protest.
So becoming a White Socks fan is out of the question? [Wink] Having relatives who are Cubs fans I know the fans of the 2 teams are pretty much mutually exclusive.

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Stephen Furley
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But *what* do they play, football? baseball? basketball? I have to admit that I have so little knowledge of sport that I could only just about tell the difference between any of these.

The only reason I know that it is going is that it has a station on the LIRR, and there were posters up at Penn Station for the 'final season' to be played there earlier this year.

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Scott Norwood
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After this season, the ten oldest MLB ballparks will be as follows:

1. Fenway Park, 1912, Boston, MA.
2. Wrigley Field, 1914, Chicago, IL.
3. Dodger Stadium, 1962, Los Angeles, CA.
4. Angel Stadium of Anaheim, 1966, Anaheim, CA.
5. McAfee Coliseum, 1966, Oakland, CA.
6. Kauffman Stadium, 1973, Kansas City, MO.
7. Metrodome, 1982, Minneapolis, MI.
8. Dolphin Stadium, 1987, Miami, FL.
9. Rogers Centre, 1989, Toronto, ON., Canada
10. Tropicana Field, 1990, Tampa Bay, FL.

It's sort of funny to think of Dodger Stadium (which is thoroughly modern in every respect, at least in a 1960s sort of way) as being the third oldest MLB ballpark.

As I understand it, the issue with Yankee Stadium is that it has not been well maintained for the last decade or so and there are (were) questions about its structural integrity. Also, the owners wanted more "premium" seats and private boxes, which is where teams seem to make much of their money now. The new Stadium will actually have a smaller total seating capacity than the old one.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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The new Yankee Stadium is indeed smaller and holds less people, but it has all the modern amenities including many more skyboxs that make the owners lots of money. There is nothing structurally wrong with the existing stadium. In fact, it was substantially rebuilt for it's remodeling in the 1970's.

The old Yankee Stadium is not being demolished. It is being given to the city of New York. They are going to take down the top tier (3rd level), and use the remainder of the stadium for city sports.

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Allison Parsons
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quote: Chris Slycord
So becoming a White Socks fan is out of the question?
haha, well in Peoria (which is smackdab in the middle of IL), you're either a STL or Cubs fan. Not to many White Socks fans. But now that Ken Griffey Jr is on the team, I would probably become a Socks fan. [Smile]

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Since Allison mentioned his name, I want to chime in.

Ken Griffey, Jr. was a major part of my favorite team, the Cincinnati Reds, for quite a number of years (as well as his father). Recently he left and went to the Chicago White Sox.

Now, I have been and always will be a fan of the team. However, MLB has changed so much over the years (since the '70s) that I am pretty diappointed with the way things are now.

I could care less about any of the Stadiums and which team is the best. As far as I am concerned, it's a bunch of overpaid whiners who need a good kick in the pants to make them realize how good they have it.

We all have our memories of our favorite team in our favorite stadium. That's all we have now, is the memories. We need to realize that it will never be as good as we remember it.

So long, Yankee Stadium, and thanks for the memories.

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Bill Gabel
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quote: Stephen Furley
But *what* do they play, football? baseball? basketball?
Shephen they play baseball.

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Bobby Henderson
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I thought the stadium was going to get demolished. That's usually what happens when a new stadium gets built next door.

The NYC city government will probably have to spend a fortune in altering Yankee stadium. Taking down the top tier of seating won't be cheap. What may be even more expensive is bringing the facility up to code with current federal laws. Any significant commercial building renovation typically requires the building to comply with the latest regulations for everything from access for disabled people to the latest NEC electrical wiring rules. This is a big reason why it's usually cheaper to completely tear down an old building and build brand new on the same spot. Here in Lawton, a historic school building is being renovated to become the new city hall. The regs from ADA, EPA, OSHA, NEC and more added about $4 million to the project.

It's kind of a shame that the new Yankee Stadium will have fewer seats and a greater emphasis on luxury sky boxes. I wonder what that will do the ticket prices.

Usually it costs quite a bit less to see a professional baseball game than a pro football game since a lot more games are played. It's been several years since I've gone to see a Dallas Cowboys game. The tickets are often difficult to get and you'll pay a lot even for shitty seats up in the nosebleed section. Rumor is Cowboys tickets in the new Texas Stadium in Arlington are going way the hell up in price. That's despite the stadium having a maximum capacity of over 100,000 people and the taxpayers of Arlington ponying up a huge amount of the stadium's $1 billion price tag.

quote: Joe Redifer
True, that's why they use steroids. The likes of Mark McGuire and Roger Clemens taught us that.
The scandal of steroid use has definitely hurt professional baseball. However, lots of other sports are badly affected by steroid use and other forms of "doping." Pro football has a good testing program in place, but that does nothing about widespread doping happening at the high school and college levels. Pro football is also pressuring linemen to get bigger (and fatter) than ever before -that way they can drop dead when they're 50.

quote: Mike Blakesley
What about bowling? Anybody can do that.
I was referring to contact sports. Baseball, golf and a long list of other sports don't require the player to be born with a certain body type in order to do well. But you can't blind-side your opponent with a full body check when he's fixing to swing a golf club or throw a bowling ball either.

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
They could tear down Major League Baseball and I wouldn't give a hoot.
Then why did you waste your time posting that comment in this thread? The subject is about Yankee Stadium closing. The topic isn't "let's piss on baseball."

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Stephen Furley
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quote: Scott Norwood
2. Wrigley Field, 1914, Chicago, IL.
3. Dodger Stadium, 1962, Los Angeles, CA.

That's a heck of a gap between numbers 2 and 3. Is that because the first two are old enough to be considered historic structures, and therefore worth preserving, while later stadia from, say the '50s were not?

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quote: Bobby Henderson
I wonder what that will do the ticket prices.
The season ticket plan my friend has for this last season was $60.00 a seat, a game. He's been a season ticket holder for 9 years now. I think he said it's going up around $20.00 a seat, a game for next season.

Go Yankees!!!! right to the bank!!

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I know I'll go to baseball hell for saying this, but Yankee Stadium was a dump. The concourses were so narrow, and the seats were so cramped that watching a game in that place felt like a chore.

Wrigley Field needs to go too. People talk about all the history at that place. Yeah, well, when I go to bathroom and have to pee in that communal trough with all of the drunks, history drops pretty low on my list of priorities.

I love baseball passionately. I go to see 15 or 20 games every year. I've been pulling my hair out all day over this series the White Sox have coming up in Minnesota this week.

But the one thing that baseball needs to get over is its love of history. Let's move forward. Instant replay? Bring it on. Stadiums with working plumbing? Awesome. It's the 21st century, for cryin' out loud.

Good riddance, Yankee Stadium.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Allison Parsons
If Wrigley Field is ever tore down and rebuilt 2 blocks away, I'm becoming a Cardinals fan in protest.
I agree completely. Spent many a fine day there whilst growing up. Once Wrigley Field is gone there isn't a beautiful park left. I've never classified Fenway as a very beautiful BB Park. Once in there was enough for me. What goes on around Fenway during a game is more interesting than the park itself.

Fortunately for us the real estate around Wrigleyville is so expensive that'll probably never happen...

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I know, what were they thinking? There was some talk about building the new stadium in NJ near The Meadowlands (home to the NY Giants), but that idea lasted about half a second.

It's weird seeing two Yankee Stadiums all crunched together side by side.. I drive between them on the way to one of my theatres... and there's still no place to park.

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