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Mike Schindler
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The Cubs have actually won quite a bit this year. But in general, they have fans for two reasons. First, they've been on WGN forever, so many of their games can be seen nationally.

Secondly, they have created an environment at Wrigley Field where baseball is almost secondary. Going to a Cubs game has become the thing to do for the hip twenty-something crowd. It really is kind of like a big outdoor bar. But instead of a live band, they've got a baseball team.

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Julie Lucero
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Well, so much for the all-Los Angeles or all-Chicago World Series. I'm SHOCKED the Angels and Cubs both got knocked out in the first round! It reminds me of a few years back when Seattle won an insane number of games (well over 100) and failed to make it to the World Series. I guess having the best record during the regular season is meaningless if you go up against a weaker team that happens to be hot right at playoff time or gets a bunch of breaks or calls that go their way.

Do any of you that follow baseball like the current playoff structure? Sometimes I think the first round ought to be a best of seven as with the rest of the playoffs.

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Bobby Henderson
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Here's a copy of a somewhat ironic ad regarding the first round of the playoffs:

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Chad Souder
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quote: Julie Lucero
I guess having the best record during the regular season is meaningless if you go up against a weaker team that happens to be hot right at playoff time or gets a bunch of breaks or calls that go their way.
Being hot is huge. The Dodgers and Phillies were the two hottest teams at the end of the regular season. In the case of the Cubs, they had an unlucky draw. The Dodgers featured power right-handed pitching and the Cubs featured power right-handed hitting. Good pitching beats good hitting and the Cubs were lacking that key left-handed bat to neutralize the right-handed pitching of the Dodgers. The Cubs would have matched up better against either the Brewers or the Phillies.

quote: Julie Lucero
Do any of you that follow baseball like the current playoff structure? Sometimes I think the first round ought to be a best of seven as with the rest of the playoffs.
I would prefer a 7 game series in the divisional series. A 5 game series almost ensures a 3 man rotation, negating the advantage a team with a fourth strong starter would have over a team without. The more frequent travel days also cater to keeping a bull pen fresh, which would help the team who wins early.

The bigger problem I have is with the rule that the team with the best regular season record cannot face the wild card if the wild card comes from their division. I think the team with the best record should either get their choice of opponent, or face the team with the worst record regardless, or face the wild card regardless.

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Steve Guttag
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Or nix the wild-card all together. 162 or so games should be enough to determine whom has had the best record for the season. It isn't like Football where it is 16 games where calls/being hot/cold have such a huge affect on potential outcome.

But yes, a 7-game series would be more representative of how each team is performing.

Steve

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Mike Schindler
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The problem with expanding the first round to seven games is that that would probably extend the season into November. Most of the country gets pretty cold in November.

The purist in me would like them to do away with interleague play and divisions, and just have the two best teams from each league meet in the World Series. However, the wild card has sure made the regular season much more interesting for many more teams. And for that reason, I favor the current format.

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Chad Souder
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quote: Steve Guttag
Or nix the wild-card all together.
I don't hate that idea, but since they moved to a 3 division per league system, it almost requires a wild card. The end of the year runs generate way too much money right now since so many additional teams are in the running for playoffs, so I don't see the wild card going away anytime soon.

quote: Steve Guttag
It isn't like Football where it is 16 games where calls/being hot/cold have such a huge affect on potential outcome.
Mathmatically, it is easier for an NFL team to make the playoffs vs. a MLB team. Only 8 of 30 get in, vs. 12 of 32 in the NFL. I don't follow other major sports, but I think baseball is the most difficult mathmatically to make the playoffs.

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Chad Souder
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I should add that I do agree, Steve, that 1 football game equalling 10 baseball games does allow those things you mentioned to have a much greater affect on potential outcome, especially in the playoffs.

quote: Mike Schindler
The problem with expanding the first round to seven games is that that would probably extend the season into November.
This has actually been discussed by owners the past few years and the agreed remedy would be to reduce the season back to 154 games or some in-between to make up the difference.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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My cousin, who apperently has friends in high places, was given a private tour though the new Yankee Stadium a few weeks ago. He was rather impressed, which surprised me. The bad news is that because of the uproar in the community about losing open park land for the new stadium, the city now plans on completely demolishing the old stadium.

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Bobby Henderson
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It didn't take long. Here's another funny (or somewhat cruel) baseball ad.

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Chad Souder
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For me, those ads aren't nearly as good as the first ones. For the Dodgers to go from a sub .500, second place team to making the NLCS is, in my opinion, not lame at all and for Boston to come back from being down 7 runs in the 7th inning of an elimination game to taking it to the wire was not blah, but quite exciting. It was a classic ALCS for sure.

This may be the lowest ratings the Series ever has, but it makes for some good baseball!

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Bobby Henderson
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The ALCS was definitely a good, entertaining series. So many of the others were lopsided contests. The Red Sox tried very hard, but the Rays were just too tough a team to beat. I'm not certain, but I have a feeling the Rays will have an easier time beating the Philadelphia Phillies.

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